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Drift Reality 05-05-2004, 10:12 AM no offense to portis
but if we don;t release davis las two seasons then
cb - bailey and springs
fs- bowen and taylor
lb-washington, barrow, and arrington
dt- noble,............and co
we have unbelievable backfield
hard fitting lb's
and just ave line
By the way - this is a very strange thing to say.
Basically, you just mentioned our entire defense except for Bailey. What you should have probably said was that if we had found a way to renegotiate with Davis, lowering his cap number, we would have an extra third round pick (b/c we wouldn't trade for Canidate), an extra second round pick, and Bailey. Also, we wouldn't have signed Springs (we'd throw Smoot in there) and maybe we could have landed another d-lineman instead (in the Robaire Smith price-range).
Then again, if Davis had stayed, we may have won a few more games and Spurrier might still be our coach.
Hogskin 05-05-2004, 10:57 AM Hmmmm - if we kept Davis, no way we would have been able to sign Coles. And as others pointed out, Bailey was gone one way or the other - did not want to work WITH the team to structure his contract so he could stay. AND, with or without Bailey, I believe you will se a GREATLY improved Redskin defense this year.
But most of all, I would much rather have Portis than Davis. Especially at this point in their respective careers. No contest.
skinsguy 05-05-2004, 11:19 AM I think Bugel and Gibbs would have resurrected Davis' career a bit. However, I have noticed that Davis seemed to become more injury prone...i.e...last year in the playoff when he had that big run and that was pretty much it for him! I think we're better off with Portis..but it would have been nice to have someone like Davis to come in and relieve Portis when he needed a breather.
BrudLee 05-05-2004, 11:26 AM I think Bugel and Gibbs would have resurrected Davis' career a bit. However, I have noticed that Davis seemed to become more injury prone...i.e...last year in the playoff when he had that big run and that was pretty much it for him! I think we're better off with Portis..but it would have been nice to have someone like Davis to come in and relieve Portis when he needed a breather.
I don't know about "more injury prone". Davis has had ONE 16 game season lining up as a tailback in his career. There comes a time when a hamstring never fully heals. I think #48 hit that barrier about three years ago.
FRPLG 05-05-2004, 12:02 PM This is the butterfly effect. It's impossible to say how figuring out how to keep Dvais would have change this team currently. I imagine this team would look completely different now than it really does. Who knows...maybe Spurrier sees the light and runs Davis 30 times a game and we win 10 games and make the playoffs so Spurrier stays and Gibbs is off coaching the Falcons and....
EEich 05-05-2004, 12:33 PM If we had kept Davis, we would likely not have been in a position to draft Taylor.
Skins fan 44 05-05-2004, 01:38 PM I am just happy where we are now. I don't really care how we got here (the Past) I am looking to the future.
memphisskin 05-05-2004, 01:42 PM I disagree about Davis wearing down at the end of the season. I think he's a strong back all year long. Now I do wish that we had renegotiated Davis' contract down to a reasonable number, but we all knew that wasn't going to happen with SS running the show.
I think Stephen Davis is a premier back, you don't rush for the kind of yardage he puts up without being a factor all season long. Now Davis did have a high ankle sprain at the end of the year, but there's no sense in debating injuries because you cannot predict or prevent them! A running back is going to take hits, heck even Portis missed time last year with a bruised sternum.
I can tell that it's a lean news time because he we are talking about hypotheticals. When in fact, the current reality is much brighter than anything we could have hoped for 2 or 3 or 4 years ago.
skinsfanthru&thru 05-05-2004, 01:53 PM i don't know about anyone else, but anytime i think about davis, i remember the gaffs he had when inside the 5 yard line and while trying to run out the clock. i know he didn't fumble a lot, but when he did they always seemed to have come at the worst possible time in the game. i liked davis' "i'm gonna knock the snot out of you" mentality, but i'd rather have the players we've gained since letting him and his way overpriced contract. instead of one pretty good, when healthy, running back in davis, we were able to aquire 5 players(coles, thomas, hall, morton, and portis) in the top 10 of their respective positions. i'd take take 5 really good players over any one pretty good player in football every time.
JWsleep 05-05-2004, 02:36 PM I agree, FRPLG (what does that stand for???).
What ifs are good for slow news times (as Memphis points out), but this one is pretty far from reality. There are too many variables.
I always liked SD, but those crucial fumbles and the injuries are what I remember most.
GO CLINTON PORTIS!!!!
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