More digs at the Skins from Fatty P

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That Guy
03-17-2006, 01:20 PM
every time you guys bitch about these guys no matter how small the infraction. either the team wins and proves him wrong or doesn't.

all we can do is send hate mail.

12thMan
03-17-2006, 01:22 PM
every time you guys bitch about these guys no matter how small the infraction. either the team wins and proves him wrong or doesn't.

all we can do is send hate mail.

But Guy, it feels damn good giving them the proverbial finger!!

That Guy
03-17-2006, 01:23 PM
oh yeah, synder isn't magically altering the cap, and eventually you do have to pay it off (like last year when we let two starters go and we only picked up two lower end FAs).

eventually hard choices are going to have to be made unless the cap gets another huge boost, but they planned it well enough to keep most of these guys together for at least a few years.

JoeRedskin
03-17-2006, 01:43 PM
We blew up the roster? I didn't know that? That sucks.

I'm going to miss Samuels, Raybach, Jansen, Dockery, Thomas, Moss, Portis, Cooley, Washington, Griffin, Rogers, Springs, Taylor, Cartwright, Betts, Daniels, Salave'a, etc. etc.

And it comments like that by these guys that piss me off. It is just intellectually dishonest. King, Pasta, Banks and the rest are entitled to their opinions but they try to pass those opinions off as being supported by making factually conclusive statements that are at, best, disengenous. In doing so, b/c others rely on these guys for the "facts", they perpetuate the anti-skin bias held by other talking heads and local medias. How many people did the research concerning the likelihood that the Skins would be signing 20-30 rookies if the CBA hadn't gone through? I believe it started w/ Pasta and got repeated by everyone else.

These guys are paid the big bucks - yet they can't follow simple analytical rules: Check the facts and conduct an analysis based on those facts then reach a conclusion (i.e. who did we sign, who did we cut, what role did those cut play, what role will those signed play, what was the stated reason for the cuts and signings, do the stated reasons match the factual backgrounds of the signings and cuts?). It's a lot of work but, hey, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing all day?

Instead we get these "blow up the roster" and "cutting Corey Raymer is significant" type of comments. I mean seriously, what could Pasta's basis be for saying we are blowing up the roster? Cutting Ramsey and Arrington? Two players who had almost no role in last year's playoff run and who's replacement has been debated for at least a year now? Replacing marginal starters with better players (Bowen, Clark - Archuletta)? Signing players who hopefully will upgrade a position that was obviously a need (Lloyd, R-El)?

Get the facts straight, conduct an analysis, support your conclusions. I thought those were the requirements for good analytical commentary. Apparently, I was wrong.

But That Guy is right - they won't shut up unless and until we start winning.

mooby
03-17-2006, 02:37 PM
Don't you remember that huge splash we made in free agency last year? We picked up all star casey rabach, our own version of T.O. in David patten, and that suck ass overpaid moss? how in the world were we able to pick up all those guys, and still be under the cap?

PSUSkinsFan21
03-17-2006, 03:08 PM
Get the facts straight, conduct an analysis, support your conclusions. I thought those were the requirements for good analytical commentary. Apparently, I was wrong.

No, you're right. Key word though is "good" anlytical commentary. This is something Lenny P has proven time and time again he is completely incapable of.

The fact is the guy is incompetent. Period. He's not insightful. He's not provocative. He's not ingenius. He's just some guy with opinions that some fool thought should be voiced to the outside world. It used to bother me too, but then I found this site and realized if I want intelligent commentary and football discussion, I have a place to turn to and it doesn't involve biased and moronic football writers/"experts".

celts32
03-17-2006, 03:10 PM
awootaibijabbawuga...na jabba no bother.

Cooley 350Z
03-17-2006, 03:21 PM
I hold the media's opinions in the same regard that I hold belly-button lint. As soon as they report something insightful and accurate that I wasn't aware of weeks beforehand, my tune will change.

Our society is so focused on immediate gratification that us real fans are aware of everything going on with their team before it is even physically possible for these guys to build into their weekly reports. Since their priority is to sell magazine, with "breaking news" no longer an option, they are left to write gossip-columns and inflammatory remarks to drum up attention, even if it is just hate-mail from us.

Bottom line, if people stopped reading & responding to this crap, eventually Len serves no purpose & slowly fades into the dark.

PWNED
03-17-2006, 03:28 PM
And it comments like that by these guys that piss me off. It is just intellectually dishonest. King, Pasta, Banks and the rest are entitled to their opinions but they try to pass those opinions off as being supported by making factually conclusive statements that are at, best, disengenous. In doing so, b/c others rely on these guys for the "facts", they perpetuate the anti-skin bias held by other talking heads and local medias. How many people did the research concerning the likelihood that the Skins would be signing 20-30 rookies if the CBA hadn't gone through? I believe it started w/ Pasta and got repeated by everyone else.

These guys are paid the big bucks - yet they can't follow simple analytical rules: Check the facts and conduct an analysis based on those facts then reach a conclusion (i.e. who did we sign, who did we cut, what role did those cut play, what role will those signed play, what was the stated reason for the cuts and signings, do the stated reasons match the factual backgrounds of the signings and cuts?). It's a lot of work but, hey, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing all day?

Instead we get these "blow up the roster" and "cutting Corey Raymer is significant" type of comments. I mean seriously, what could Pasta's basis be for saying we are blowing up the roster? Cutting Ramsey and Arrington? Two players who had almost no role in last year's playoff run and who's replacement has been debated for at least a year now? Replacing marginal starters with better players (Bowen, Clark - Archuletta)? Signing players who hopefully will upgrade a position that was obviously a need (Lloyd, R-El)?

Get the facts straight, conduct an analysis, support your conclusions. I thought those were the requirements for good analytical commentary. Apparently, I was wrong.

But That Guy is right - they won't shut up unless and until we start winning.

and see, this is where other fans get their opinions of our team.

GoSkins!
03-17-2006, 10:10 PM
Guys, give the P-man a break. Someone has to write the articles to make the fans of the other 31 teams feel better. Like...for instance... Philly fans. It wouldn't be nice to tell them: "Hey, you guys just have cheap owners and really could have won the suprbowl a couple of years ago if they had just signed a couple more key guys". Instead, point at the Redskins and say they are dumb for signing the best free agents available. Say things to help them believe that the Skins are conducting shady accounting by not handing out the players contracts to any shmuck that asks. Make up stuff about them "blowing up" the roster so that they think thier team is still on the same off-season playing field. Tell them that the skins are killing themselves by trading draft picks... and how the Lions will end up drafting a great first round receiver this year when the skins should have.

He is just serving up what those other fans need. It's kinda like he is "Jabba the waitress".

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