Eagles solve WR problems

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JoeRedskin
03-16-2006, 04:43 PM
i agree that i truly feel, at least on paper at this point, that the skins SHOULD beat every team they play, indy included.

Me too. Unless, of course, Indy trades for Gaffney thus creating major match-up problems for the Skins - Who dat saying they gonna cover Jabar?

PWNED
03-16-2006, 04:44 PM
hahah is there a major TO-like trade for gaffney in the making?! god only knowS!:)

i still feel like our best pikcup was davis. I think he'll be a total beast in williams system.

SmootSmack
03-16-2006, 05:41 PM
i still feel like our best pikcup was davis. I think he'll be a total beast in williams system.

Who?

hooskins
03-16-2006, 06:22 PM
I am a member a cowboys forum, and alot of members are coming on saying the TO deal is done. They are all members that have connections to the organization. I am thinking the deal will be announced by the end of the day.

Beemnseven
03-16-2006, 06:38 PM
What are their weak points? Not coaching, since their D-coordinator is a stud. Their secondary is pretty damn good with Sheppard, Brown, Dawkins, and Lewis. Their linebacking corps of Jones, Barber, and Trotter are solid. Their D-line of Kearse, Howard, Patterson, and Walker are solid.

Granted, they are older, but I don't see any glaring weaknesses. While their defense has been their strong point (as you point out) and may be aging, I still view it as pretty formidable.

Hey Sheriff, are you the former Ramseyfan? If so, I guess I missed the formal announcement.

The Eagles won’t be pushovers in '06 by any means. I would expect at least a slight rebound from their 6-10 record last year. Donovan McNabb at 100% makes that offense better by himself. And you’re right that their passing game did just fine with very average receivers, even before Terrell Owens got there.

That said, they have the same core group of players that have been there for 4 to 5 seasons now. They made up an amazing tandem that brought them to 4 straight NFC Championship games and then to the Super Bowl. But their window of success, even with an excellent coaching staff, is beginning to close. I do believe you’ll see an overall decline from Philly soon enough, not dissimilar from what we’re witnessing from the Green Bay Packers.

While struggling to make games against the Eagles interesting from 2002 - 2004, the Redskins are by far the superior team now. You certainly can’t discount them totally, but just about every facet of our team is much more equipped to handle any threat the Eagles can throw at us.

Paintrain
03-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Who?
You know, Davis.. He used to play for that team, plays on defense, wears that number.. Oh man, he's going to be a big part of our defense..

Pocket$ $traight
03-16-2006, 09:08 PM
I guarantee that they will sign Jacobs if he is released. They love signing Skins.

BigSKINBauer
03-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Here are Gaffney's stats compared to some of the big name receivers that were on the market.

Gaffney:
2002 Houston Texans 16 14 41 483 11.8 27 1 5 0 27
2003 Houston Texans 16 11 34 402 11.8 33 2 4 0 21
2004 Houston Texans 16 12 41 632 15.4 69 2 12 1 34
2005 Houston Texans 16 13 55 492 8.9 29 2 3 0 31

Randle El:
2002 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 0 47 489 10.4 36 2 7 0 22
2003 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 1 37 364 9.8 32 1 4 0 21
2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 7 43 601 14.0 39 3 10 0 29
2005 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 15 35 558 15.9 63 1 10 3 23

Givens:
2002 New England Patriots 12 0 9 92 10.2 30 1 1 0 4
2003 New England Patriots 13 5 34 510 15.0 57 6 9 2 24
2004 New England Patriots 15 12 56 874 15.6 50 3 13 3 47
2005 New England Patriots 13 10 59 738 12.5 40 2 9 1 32

Jurevicius:
1998 New York Giants 14 1 9 146 16.2 59 0 2 1 6
1999 New York Giants 16 1 18 318 17.7 71 1 3 2 12
2000 New York Giants 14 3 24 272 11.3 43 1 2 1 17
2001 New York Giants 14 9 51 706 13.8 46 3 10 1 36
2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15 3 37 423 11.4 26 4 4 0 24
2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5 2 12 118 9.8 22 2 1 0 9
2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 3 27 333 12.3 42 2 5 1 15
2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 11 55 694 12.6 52 10 9 1 39

All these are from concretefield.com
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A one year deal and I assume its cheap. Not that bad to be honest. THeir receivers can't shake a stick at us but gaffney comes from a POS team. Brandon Lloyd also comes from a POS team. The thing that impresses me about Brandon is that he did very well compared to his teammates. Looking at his numbers in comparison you can see that he had 2x more than any other player on his team receiving. That is not common. Moss did not have 2x cooley. Only 4 other players could say that they had 2x the amount of yards receiving than anyone on their team. All four of those can also say they have been to a pro bowl in the past two years.

Enough about Lloyd, I think Gaffney is a solid pick up. Their receivers suck but Gaffney is a good investment. They might strike gold...

Warpath
03-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Here are Gaffney's stats compared to some of the big name receivers that were on the market.

Gaffney:
2002 Houston Texans 16 14 41 483 11.8 27 1 5 0 27
2003 Houston Texans 16 11 34 402 11.8 33 2 4 0 21
2004 Houston Texans 16 12 41 632 15.4 69 2 12 1 34
2005 Houston Texans 16 13 55 492 8.9 29 2 3 0 31

Randle El:
2002 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 0 47 489 10.4 36 2 7 0 22
2003 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 1 37 364 9.8 32 1 4 0 21
2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 7 43 601 14.0 39 3 10 0 29
2005 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 15 35 558 15.9 63 1 10 3 23

Givens:
2002 New England Patriots 12 0 9 92 10.2 30 1 1 0 4
2003 New England Patriots 13 5 34 510 15.0 57 6 9 2 24
2004 New England Patriots 15 12 56 874 15.6 50 3 13 3 47
2005 New England Patriots 13 10 59 738 12.5 40 2 9 1 32

Jurevicius:
1998 New York Giants 14 1 9 146 16.2 59 0 2 1 6
1999 New York Giants 16 1 18 318 17.7 71 1 3 2 12
2000 New York Giants 14 3 24 272 11.3 43 1 2 1 17
2001 New York Giants 14 9 51 706 13.8 46 3 10 1 36
2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15 3 37 423 11.4 26 4 4 0 24
2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5 2 12 118 9.8 22 2 1 0 9
2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 3 27 333 12.3 42 2 5 1 15
2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 11 55 694 12.6 52 10 9 1 39

All these are from concretefield.com
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A one year deal and I assume its cheap. Not that bad to be honest. THeir receivers can't shake a stick at us but gaffney comes from a POS team. Brandon Lloyd also comes from a POS team. The thing that impresses me about Brandon is that he did very well compared to his teammates. Looking at his numbers in comparison you can see that he had 2x more than any other player on his team receiving. That is not common. Moss did not have 2x cooley. Only 4 other players could say that they had 2x the amount of yards receiving than anyone on their team. All four of those can also say they have been to a pro bowl in the past two years.

Enough about Lloyd, I think Gaffney is a solid pick up. Their receivers suck but Gaffney is a good investment. They might strike gold...


What a copycat. No, Im just kidding. Did anyone else notice that they also got Jeff Garcia? I think thats a prett big pickup as a backup, because we all know first hand that all of their backups were second rate citizens. Im definitely not saying that Jeff Garcia is the answer, but he can handle the ball a bit bitter than McMahon or Detmer.

Pocket$ $traight
03-16-2006, 09:40 PM
Gaffney is solid. He is no Lloyd.

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