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Schneed10 03-16-2006, 11:53 AM Yeah I'm concerned that he'll hold out. But then again there isn't much precedent for players holding out after only two years in the league. Portis is the only one I can think of, and that ended in a trade.
First he has to get cleared of his charges. Then he could even start to think about holding out. If he's cleared, I doubt he'd hold out quite yet. Rosenhaus must know that Taylor could get a lot more cash if he just distanced himself from the gun charge, played hard for a year or two, and then came back to the bargaining table.
Then again who knows what Rosenhaus is thinking. The guy's as greedy as they come.
Drago 03-16-2006, 11:54 AM We're talking about the same guy that wouldn't call back his coach last offseason when he was MIA from voluntary workouts? I don't want to rehash this whole argument, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Taylor hasn't always put the "team" first.
I totally agree, not to mention we had good players restucture thier contracts so the team could bring in impact free agents. If Sean Taylor starts whining, that would just be a slap in thier face.
mooby 03-16-2006, 11:59 AM i think i heard somewhere that taylor's contract could allow him to earn up to 40 million if he meets certain incentives. If he makes the pro bowl, it would give him a 9 million bonus, i think.
#56fanatic 03-16-2006, 12:01 PM 1) Sean Taylor doesn't have much barganing leverage right now with his trial coming up. They were going to try something like that last season, but this whole weapons, assault thing came up and they dropped the idea.
2) Sean needs to prove he has become a mature adult. Not a punk who spits on people, disrespects a hall of fame coach, skips workouts, and pulls guns on people. When he can do the right stuff off the field for just a year or so, I have a feeling Joe, Danny, and GW will work out a very nice payday for him.
3) plus Arch has been in the league for what 6 years, playing at a consistant high level. Sean has two years under his belt.
ST will get his money eventually, no need for him to worry. If he beats his case and stays clean for a season, I think the Skins would be willing to restructure. Right now he doesn't have enough leverage.
That Guy 03-16-2006, 12:45 PM arch only got a 5$mill bonus... a lot of his money depends on him staying on the roster. (5 1$mill roster bonuses starting next year). Cause of his injury troubles, its an injury structured contract.
ST makes slightly over 2mill a year (average), but a pro bowl means a 9mill$ bonus. A baseball guy wrote it, and there's just a lot more incentive clauses in your average MLB contract cause there's no cap (they allow owners the chance to pay less if they miss, but it takes away cost certainty).
he almost got to the pro bowl this year... if he gets in, that's it, its a 27mill contract and almost the same deal as arch. If he hits other incentives it becomes better.
if he holds out, his chances to hit his incentives starts to go downhill.
RiggoRules 03-16-2006, 01:11 PM This entire discussion is pretty much moot at this point. His entire future is all up to a jury and judge. In other words, his future is in doubt. There is a very real chance, ST will never play in the NFL again (what is that chance? I'd guess somewhere between 25% and 75% -- it isn't 0 and it isn't 100%).
Now, if he is found not guilty, gets the charges thrown out or something like that, he is going to make a great deal of money. The good news for ST is that he didn't get drafted by a cheap owner. The bad news is nobody wants to redo deals with Screw Rosenhaus (if only the NFL would whack that worthless POS).
My take on ST is that what happened in Miami was a wake up call for the man. He didn't keep his nose 100% clean, but you did see quite a bit of good stuff. He still needs to grow up. I just hope for his sake (this is bigger than football) that one mistake doesn't destroy his life.
jermus22 03-16-2006, 02:20 PM Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Taylor fire his first agent and try to get more money before his rookie season? If that's true, then he doesn't seem like much of a team guy.
That Guy 03-16-2006, 02:42 PM Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Taylor fire his first agent and try to get more money before his rookie season? If that's true, then he doesn't seem like much of a team guy.
i dont think he fired him to get more money. no motive was ever explained. right after the deal he fired the guy that wrote it and re-hired his old agent. he's deal is super cap friendly to the skins, so i'd say it was very (incidently) team oriented ;)
taylor21dakila 03-16-2006, 02:45 PM sean taylor on the field is a great player i would b mad if i was gettn payd less than adam off the field he needs to work on a lil bit
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