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joecrisp 02-24-2004, 12:31 AM Anyone think he's the type to boycott training camp if he doesn't get the new deal he may want and is traded to the Skins? Kind of a dumb question but, if I were to guess, he would work out a new deal before a trade just as the Broncos would need to work out a new deal for Champ. Any thoughts ...
From the sound of it, Portis and Bailey would both have new deals in place before the trade is consummated.
No new deals, no trade.
SmootSmack 02-24-2004, 12:37 AM My only concern with getting Portis is look at Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Quentin Griffin. Any time one of those is the primary back in Denver they do well. So is it the runner or is the system? That being said, if Portis is just 80% as good here in DC as in Denver that's still better than anything we have. And it's better than most of the league. So yeah I'd make the deal. What's DC without a Clinton?
Anyone hear the rumor that has us sending Champ to the Jets for their 1st and 2nd, then sending our 1st and their second to Denver for Portis? And what do you all think of a Champ for Shaun Alexander swap?
It's good to be back on the warpath!
From the sound of it, Portis and Bailey would both have new deals in place before the trade is consummated.
No new deals, no trade.
Yeah neither guy will be going anywhere without a new deal.
skinsfan_n_vegas 02-24-2004, 12:43 AM I think Portis is gonna be lookin' for BIG $$$. How's that gonna work and will we be able to afford him? I guess the only way we'll know is if the deal goes down.
joecrisp 02-24-2004, 12:43 AM You know, it's funny Smooty, but I read two articles over the weekend, one from Adam Schefter of the Denver Post, and the other from one of the Seattle paper, that proposed the Portis and Alexander deals, respectively. Initially, it appeared that these writers were merely suggesting the viability of these potential trades-- but lo and behold, on Monday, Portis-for-Bailey is all the rage!Apparently, the Portis-Bailey rumor swept throught Indy on Friday or Saturday, and by Monday, Gibbs was verifying the possibility of it to the media. I haven't heard any additional word on the possibility of trading for Alexander. It would be interesting to know which came first-- the rumor, or the reality?
Hail to the Redskins 02-24-2004, 01:03 AM Ok well someone has to be not so excited right? hahaha
I mean... I think Portis is may possibly be the best back in all of football (an EYE_POPPING 5.5 yds/carry avg. each of first 2 years... find someone who can come close to THAT)... BUT
Champ IS the best cover corner in football, and he's only 25!!
Straight up.. player for player? That is KINDA shady enough, considering the fact that Portis in the near future will be expecting money EXCEEDING Bailey's piddely (in comparison) 55 MIL deal. I personally think a cheaper, reliable back can be found in the draft or cheaper in Free Agency. I mean... runners are a product of their systems for the most part, using Denver as the perfect example (Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Griffin).
A 2nd round pick too?? HELL NO. Can ANYONE say DEFENSE????
You mean to tell me we'd be down a 2nd and 3rd round pick this year AND the best player on our defense that was ranked in the 20's in most categories??? That wouldn't bother anyone?
And to say, well we'll get them through free agency is a little naive considering what we have guaranteed Brunell and would have to pay Portis to make him happy he is coming to DC.
Damn I'd love to see CP run for us... but I'd rather draft a Greg Jones, Chirs Perry or Quincy Wilson outside the 1st round, let them compete with Betts and McCullough in camp for the job and use our 2 FISRT ROUND PICKS (one from dealing Champ to the Lions for the 6th overall) on 2 young defensive STUDS... that we need so desperately! .... but that's just me... and I am certainly no expert.
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Gmanc711 02-24-2004, 01:14 AM I think the main setback in this , is that we wont be drafting Sean Taylor if we get this trade. I juts say that cause I think we will have to trade up and get a second back. Draft a Udeze, maybe a Starks in the second and were sitting pretty. I LOVE This trade, As for those guys going to help pack, If you need any help, lemme know, I'll drive the forklift
rome108 02-24-2004, 01:16 AM I don't like it. Straight up trade would be okay, but they want our 2nd, too? No way, they should be giving us their 2nd (or at least a 3rd) and Portis for Champ. RBs come a dime a dozen, but a shut down corner is hard to come by.
Gmanc711 02-24-2004, 01:25 AM This is why, in my opinion, straight up is a steal. I mean the second rounder, its sketchy but oh well, we were gonan draft a RB there proboly anyways.... but straight up, Champ is a CB , and its harder to come by a great corner than a great RB. BUT you need a great RB A HELL of alot more than you need a CB. I mean we can throw a average CB back there, beef up the dline and boom, were in business. If we dont have a good Runner Back there, especially in Gibbs offense, we are , in fact screwed.
He doesnt want to be a skin. get rid of him.
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