Who starts at QB?

I can't imagine paying two million a year to hire an OC and then not giving him the final say on who plays QB in his scheme. Joe Gibbs will have input surely but Saunders will make the call.

However, the Ramsey Bridge was burned before Saunders got here. He doesn't want to play here.

Joe Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. He may LET Saunders make the call. But Gibbs has the power.

Joe Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. He may LET Saunders make the call. But Gibbs has the power.

Obviously. But don't you think this was decided when they met for 12 hours at Al Saunders' home before Al took the job?

But Gibbs has the power.

No disrepect or anything but I started remembering some of the old 80's cartoons after I read this.

Like He-Man: " I - HAVE - THE - POWER" of greyskull or something like that.
And Thunder Cats: "THunder, THUNder, THUNDER CATS - HOOOOEEE"

I still think we should pursue the Ramsey for Abraham & the Jets 1st round pick.

No disrepect or anything but I started remembering some of the old 80's cartoons after I read this.

Like He-Man: " I - HAVE - THE - POWER" of greyskull or something like that.
And Thunder Cats: "THunder, THUNder, THUNDER CATS - HOOOOEEE"

actually i think cheetarah was the thundercats HO.

I still think we should pursue the Ramsey for Abraham & the Jets 1st round pick.
Wait, you guys are talkng like this whole "Ramsey's gone" thing is not just a giant hoax. Seriously, you think Patrick is gone? Really? No!?!

Dammit, what are the chances of getting Tim Hasselback back? How 'bout just getting back his hottie of a wife?

So basically you're saying that the 50-60 snaps in the preseasons of 2004 and 2005 won the job for Brunell and the 16 games of 2004 regular season "fair and open competition" between the two QBs didn't carry much weight. Is that it?

I'm saying that from what Joe Gibbs has seen, and there's been plenty of evidence from game tapes of Ramsey since 2002, Brunell was the better option at the time.

Look, I was a fan of Ramsey. I rooted for him. But don't you think if there was truly anything to this guy we would have seen it by now? Or at the very least, that Gibbs would have spotted it?

I'm saying that from what Joe Gibbs has seen, and there's been plenty of evidence from game tapes of Ramsey since 2002, Brunell was the better option at the time.

Look, I was a fan of Ramsey. I rooted for him. But don't you think if there was truly anything to this guy we would have seen it by now? Or at the very least, that Gibbs would have spotted it?

He proved he was our best QB for three years running and he was improving with each game. He outplayed Weurful, Matthews and Brunell. He was 10-13 as a starter while we were 8 -17 in games he didn't start over those three years.

Maybe he didn't show you and Joe Gibbs much. Maybe you expected a young QB to do more. With the lack of supporting talent and the unprofessional offensive schemes he worked with in those years, I didn't.

Now, soon, we'll start all over...living with young Jason Campbell's mistakes. We're going into 2006 with a roster that is loaded except at the most important QB position.

But don't you think if there was truly anything to this guy we would have seen it by now? Or at the very least, that Gibbs would have spotted it?

No, apparently a handful of armchair coaches can spot Ramsey's genius sitting at home on the couch as opposed to a Hall of Fame coach who has seen him up close and personal for the past 2 years and knows more about him than we ever will.

:yeahright

No, apparently a handful of armchair coaches can spot Ramsey's genius sitting at home on the couch as opposed to a Hall of Fame coach who has seen him up close and personal for the past 2 years and knows more about him than we ever will.

:yeahright

Yeah. I have to admit that's the one argument you can make that makes any sense. Joe's a HOF coach. He knows best.