Brandon Lloyd vs Javon Walker:

Moss also played the majority of the season with no true #2 WR to take the pressure off him and he still put up big numbers.

I wouldn't worry too much about Moss, he might not put up 1400 again, but he won't have to.

With capable WRs around him he will be even more dangerous.

I agree no that moss will have an ok receiving core around him he wont have to do as much as he did last year but if he does its all good.

I am stunned that Lloyd's name is in the same line with Walker.

Want some stats: the only games that Moss got over 100 yards in were against teams with a pass defense ranked #20 or worse. (Thanks to ESPN towards the end of the season for the stat)

That's a lovely stat that's utterly meaningless, and do you know why? Even the most elite WR's in the league don't get more than 6 or 7 100 yard games a year. In '04, Chad Johnson did it a whopping 3 times. Brandon Stokley did it 5 times. Does that mean Stokley is better than Chad? Of course not.

So in effect you're cutting your sample size in half before you start looking at quality of pass defense, and then saying, "look, he's no good against tough pass defenses!".

If you want to find ways to make the stats "prove" your opinion that Santana sucks, you can do it. But I don't think there are too many people here, in Redskin Park, or at the All-Pro Committee who are going to agree with you.

I am stunned that Lloyd's name is in the same line with Walker.

We're simply comparing our options, no one is putting them in the same class of player, relax bro.

I'm in no way trying to say Santana sucks, but I think we need to look at the very possible reality that he might not repeat his stats. Someone earlier said stats show the true picture, so I tossed that out there to show that it's not like he was torching anyone great. While he had some huge games, namely Dallas I (as far as importance of his catches) until he has a repeat performance I'm going to be skeptical of him as a true #1. I don't think that's too unrealistic.

Want some stats: the only games that Moss got over 100 yards in were against teams with a pass defense ranked #20 or worse. (Thanks to ESPN towards the end of the season for the stat)
Too bad your stat is wrong

His hundred yard games were against:
Dallas (11th pass defense)
Denver (29th pass defense)
Kansas City (30th pass defense)
San Francisco (32nd pass defense)
New York (27th pass defense)
Seattle(playoffs) (25th pass defense)

He also had 96 yards against chicago, who had the 5th best pass defense

Most of his 100 yard games were against teams with bad pass defenses but not all of them

I'm in no way trying to say Santana sucks, but I think we need to look at the very possible reality that he might not repeat his stats. Someone earlier said stats show the true picture, so I tossed that out there to show that it's not like he was torching anyone great. While he had some huge games, namely Dallas I (as far as importance of his catches) until he has a repeat performance I'm going to be skeptical of him as a true #1. I don't think that's too unrealistic.

One of the other things the stats don't show: double coverage.

The impact of Patten going done was very significant. Moss was the only WR that anyone had to worry about for half the season. If we do add Lloyd and Randel El, the impact on the passing game for the TEAM (this isn't fantasy football, Moss' numbers don't matter, the teams do) will be highly significant.

SEA was in the Super Bowl and we weren't because our passing game needed some Viagra. We aren't likely to upgrade at QB. Upgrading at WR2 and WR3 is far less expensive and will get us much closer to where we want to be.

I'm in no way trying to say Santana sucks, but I think we need to look at the very possible reality that he might not repeat his stats. Someone earlier said stats show the true picture, so I tossed that out there to show that it's not like he was torching anyone great. While he had some huge games, namely Dallas I (as far as importance of his catches) until he has a repeat performance I'm going to be skeptical of him as a true #1. I don't think that's too unrealistic.

Nothing wrong with being a bit skeptical until he proves he can do it again, but if you're skeptical of Moss, it seems odd you would say Lloyd could be our #1, when he hasn't had anything close to the kind of season Moss had last year.

With a solid group of WRs around him, in all likelihood Moss's numbers will drop a bit, but that won't mean he's not a capable #1 WR. Stats are nice but they don't always tell the whole story.