Schneed10
03-08-2006, 10:54 AM
This is a bad deal for the owners, I really doubt it gets signed.
It's bad for certain owners, not too bad for others. Just depends on how much revenue they're willing to share.
Ramseyfan, I think it's hard to criticize the owners as a group. The NFL has changed now, with stadiums being privately funded, owners need the ability to retain enough of their own local revenues to pay the debt on their huge stadiums. If I were Bob McNair, and I had just borrowed tons of money to buy the Texans and the stadium, and then I got forcefed a revenue sharing plan saying I had to pay even more of my local revenues to other teams, I'd be miffed. McNair needs those local revenues to finance his stadium.
If there are owners out there without huge financial burdens, and yet are still opposed to the deal, those owners could be called dumb. But I can't fault Bob McNair or Dan Snyder for having trepidations.
The players' demand is pretty crazy when you think about it. The cap right now is at $94.5 million. If this deal goes through, the cap will go to $108 million. That's a friggin 14% raise, with further raises to come each year as the salary cap grows in concert with league revenues. I wish my paycheck was doing that.
RiggoRules
03-08-2006, 11:42 AM
No longer do discussions about the CBA focus on the greedy players, they are, and should be, about the greedy owners. I hope that cooler heads prevail and the owners can come to terms with the fact that they need to come to some sort of agreement with the NFLPA. Like it or not, the union has a strong legal hand. If the owners don't realize it and accept the latest proposed extension to the CBA, they are plain dumb.
I don't see how. Regardless of how strong the players legal hand is, their proposal and positioning is way over the top and not in the best interest of the sport, the teams or THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PLAYERS (the clear winners on this deal are the super stars -- marginal and older players get further marginalized).
The only question is, is no deal even worse? Certainly not for everybody.
Redskins8588
03-08-2006, 12:04 PM
just in from yahoo.com news
"NO DEAL!!!!"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060308/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_nfl_labor
Redskins8588
03-08-2006, 12:15 PM
is that from yesterday? I dont see anything anywhere else about them not coming to an agreement today...
Daseal
03-08-2006, 12:22 PM
It's bad for certain owners
The revenue sharing, sure. But giving 59.5% to the players? The owners wanted 56% and the players wanted 60%. They only budged 1/2 a %. No thanks (perhaps Im reading this wrong) Thats a difference of what 40-50M per %?
is that from yesterday? I dont see anything anywhere else about them not coming to an agreement today...
That article is from today, but it's saying there hasn't been news of a deal yet, not that the owners turned the offer down.
Redskins8588
03-08-2006, 12:35 PM
so then it is no real news then yet...
JWsleep
03-08-2006, 12:41 PM
No news yet--don't expect it for a while. It's gonna got to the wire. I am not optimisitc.
On a side note--Al Davis seems in good form: joking about people happy to give money away, so long as it's not their's; saying Art Shell is a good coach, and that some stupid owner fired him, etc. And he spoke in SUPPORT of Tagliabue. Someone gave old Al some happy pills, methinks.
skins268
03-08-2006, 01:14 PM
The owners Dont wanna take the deal But they will have No other choice because if they Reject the offer then they will be shelling out alot more money in 07' then they would be doing if they agreed.Greed is a part of sports it fuels the competion and the owners are looking like the bad guys but they know they cant spin the heat toward the players we go to see,cause a owner is a invisible target but if we go against the pleyers there would be No more football cause we will blame them for the ticket and parking prices-Owners Accept and bite the Bullet.**Free Fantasy baseball on yahoo.com (League ID:183363 Password:theman)Real redskins fans come and play and pass the time till september.
freddyg12
03-08-2006, 01:27 PM
The owners Dont wanna take the deal But they will have No other choice because if they Reject the offer then they will be shelling out alot more money in 07' then they would be doing if they agreed.Greed is a part of sports it fuels the competion and the owners are looking like the bad guys but they know they cant spin the heat toward the players we go to see,cause a owner is a invisible target but if we go against the pleyers there would be No more football cause we will blame them for the ticket and parking prices-Owners Accept and bite the Bullet.**Free Fantasy baseball on yahoo.com (League ID:183363 Password:theman)Real redskins fans come and play and pass the time till september.
True, the one major thing the union has to hold over the owners is an uncapped year in 07 & beyond. The cap holds labor costs down even if you're over it, like the danny is.