Dockery signs qualifying offer

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RedskinPete
03-06-2006, 10:37 AM
he really isn't. not at the LG position. 20/32 is below average and believe or not every team has starters that are below average. not every player we have is automatically above average just cause they wear a skins uniform.

I read, heard and saw coaches say that he did a very nice job in 05. Yes is he Randy Thomas no. But he isn't below average! Now below average is the Skins #2 WR spot!!!!

That Guy
03-06-2006, 10:44 AM
I read, heard and saw coaches say that he did a very nice job in 05. Yes is he Randy Thomas no. But he isn't below average! Now below average is the Skins #2 WR spot!!!!

who's he better than?

Faneca
Hutchinson
Waters
Wahle
Allen
Steinbech
Kendall
Fonoti
Andruzzi
Hamilton
Manuwai
Mulitalo
DeMulling
Piller
Brown
Jacox
Stincomb

we're already at below average and there's more left to go. plus 3-4 rookies could be better than him by next year. He runs a 5.6 40 and that's terribly slow even for an OL guy. we'll be able to pick up an even heavier guy than runs 5.3 in the 2nd round if we want.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-06-2006, 10:48 AM
What I hate about the whole situation is that I'd LOVE a better guard, but it's the whole continuity thing. Would someone else be able to step in and do a better job immediately? My gut tells me so, but I'd hate to wreck this whole "team" thing we've got going on.

RedskinPete
03-06-2006, 10:53 AM
who's he better than?

Faneca
Hutchinson
Waters
Wahle
Allen
Steinbech
Kendall
Fonoti
Andruzzi
Hamilton
Manuwai
Mulitalo
DeMulling
Piller
Brown
Jacox
Stincomb

we're already at below average and there's more left to go. plus 3-4 rookies could be better than him by next year. He runs a 5.6 40 and that's terribly slow even for an OL guy. we'll be able to pick up an even heavier guy than runs 5.3 in the 2nd round if we want.

Running time mean nothing if you are getting the job done! As for all these guys you listed what makes them better and what is the way that you can tell me that they are better? It's like saying S.Moss isn't better then joe Blow. With WR here you can use 40 times and stats to show he is better. With line men coaches grade thier games and they know who isn't getting the job done. Gibbs in a season ending interview said Doc came along way and was as I remember very high on his 05 play! If not true why would he say that???

EXoffender
03-06-2006, 10:56 AM
I was never worried aabout Dockery, just shaky on the
depth along the OL.

That Guy
03-06-2006, 10:58 AM
What I hate about the whole situation is that I'd LOVE a better guard, but it's the whole continuity thing. Would someone else be able to step in and do a better job immediately? My gut tells me so, but I'd hate to wreck this whole "team" thing we've got going on.

i totally agree with you on that point. from a talent perspective though, its hard to argue his merits though. talentwise there are a LOT of teams i'd make a straight trade with.

drafting a OG/OT type would mean a cheap backup, and if they're drafted high, there's a good chance they could start challenging for the starting job pretty soon. Being as how there's no rush to get them into the lineup and they'll be in the system while learning, its a win-win.

That Guy
03-06-2006, 11:02 AM
Running time mean nothing if you are getting the job done! As for all these guys you listed what makes them better and what is the way that you can tell me that they are better? It's like saying S.Moss isn't better then joe Blow. With WR here you can use 40 times and stats to show he is better. With line men coaches grade thier games and they know who isn't getting the job done. Gibbs in a season ending interview said Doc came along way and was as I remember very high on his 05 play! If not true why would he say that???

look, i mentioned the 40 time cause its relevent when we're talking about joe gibbs and pulling guards, i'm nto making a list and deciding talent on 40 times though :P

I'm not saying he needs to be replaced, but talent wise, he is NOT in the top 16 in the league at the LG position. You can tell by watching other teams and seeing how many times guys blow by their guards or how useful they are at getting downfield to block on running plays. Watching brian waters or hutchinson of KC and seattle. Very rarely do people get by them and get sacks/stuffs, and both are very good at running down and being invovled in plays beyond the line of scrimmage when running.

That Guy
03-06-2006, 11:05 AM
also as far as "why would he say that?"

gibbs talked up ramsey and immediately benched him
gibbs talked up taylor jacobs constantly, and well... "why would he say that?"
gibbs talked about how great royal was right after he dropped about 18 balls in one game

after every loss he talks about how great the team is and how hard they fight and complains about the refs.

its just what he does. he talks up EVERYONE.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-06-2006, 11:06 AM
i totally agree with you on that point. from a talent perspective though, its hard to argue his merits though. talentwise there are a LOT of teams i'd make a straight trade with.

drafting a OG/OT type would mean a cheap backup, and if they're drafted high, there's a good chance they could start challenging for the starting job pretty soon. Being as how there's no rush to get them into the lineup and they'll be in the system while learning, its a win-win.

But what you want to draft a lineman early with the other truly pressing needs we have? I'd love to have that luxury. Are you thinking with our 3rd round pick or our 2nd?

RedskinPete
03-06-2006, 11:07 AM
I was never worried aabout Dockery, just shaky on the
depth along the OL.

I hear you on this my friend! When you have to bring in a back up center to fill in to play a guard spot in a game that is bad! We do need some young talent and I thought we drafted some two years ago in Mark Wilson and Jim Molinaro? Also what about Kenyatta Jones I remember during the season he[Bugel] had good things to say about Jones come back!

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