44deisel44
02-23-2006, 01:14 AM
Where did "special" come from anyway....thought it was deserve better?
Ohh sry Taff...didnt read ()s in 1st post....
Say whatcha mean or mean watcha say. :)
SmootSmack
02-23-2006, 01:45 AM
Where did "special" come from anyway....thought it was deserve better?
Ohh sry Taff...didnt read ()s in 1st post....
Say whatcha mean or mean watcha say. :)
I've edited the thread title to reflect the fact that it's about him deserving better treatment than others...or "special" treatment
The poll was concocted during another chronic session with Redskins_P. We have this friend who's a bad influence (http://youtube.com/watch?v=m7JmtJQMfIA&search=towelie)
That Guy
02-23-2006, 03:40 AM
That wasn't question......Hell yeah..he deserves better....he's our boy!!!
....Geez..and when he's our D mvp next year? people will be breaking their knees jumping back on wagon.......:frusty: :) :Smoker:
he'll have a hard time competing with griffin, washington, and taylor... all of whom make less than half his current price.
GoSkins!
02-23-2006, 07:19 AM
What's the worst part about it is that everyone here turns on those players immediately after they get cut, like it's their fault...
That's what we do here.
I dont remember people feeling that way when Thrash went to the Eagles, or when Trent Green was sent packing. The difference here is simply that Lavar has not earned his paycheck for two years and the Skins have to deal with the salary cap. People tend to stand behind the guys that work thier ass off, keep thier mouth shut, and don't complain about thier paycheck (i.e those two guys I mentioned above). Lavar, for all his talent, is guilt of breaking at least two of these three football fan rules.
Again, as mentioned, these things are why fans have different opinions about the Lavar release and why your statement about the fans turning on Lavar after his release my become true. I just believe that if it does, it is his fault.
dmek25
02-23-2006, 08:03 AM
im not sure special treatment is the right wording.after being a model employee on a team that he could have jumped ship,demanded a trade,talked bad about management.he said the right things,came to work every day ,and gave the skins 110% every time he stepped on the field.for a 2-4 year span lavar was the face of the skins.i voted yes(but im not sure how much free reign is involved)and the redskins do have to factor in his salary cap issues
jermus22
02-23-2006, 08:53 AM
Although I like what Arrington brings to the field, Offiss made a very good point in bringing up that he never lived up to expectations. Many people said he'd be the next Lawrence Taylor (when Arrington first entered the league). Kind of the same way potentially great rookie safeties are compared to Ronnie Lott. Arrington has been solid, but his stats do not reflect Taylor type numbers. How many times did LA post 10+ sacks and 100+ tackles per season? LT had 7.5 sacks in 1991, when he was in the twilight of his career. Arrington only posted more than six sacks in a year just ONCE. Am I saying he's a bad player? NO. But he never did live up to the hype surrounding him.
jermus22
02-23-2006, 08:56 AM
Something else. When Darrell Green had opportunities to go other places, he restructured his contract to stay in Washington, even though it meant taking a pay cut. Lots of people profess loyalty to their teams these days (remember Antonio Pierce and Fred Smoot?), but few back it up. If Arrington restructures, I'll believe him. But all the rumors about him retiring and wanting to leave have cast serious doubts in my mind regarding his future with the 'skins. I hope he can stay, but not at the unecessary expense of the team. :duel:
Although I like what Arrington brings to the field, Offiss made a very good point in bringing up that he never lived up to expectations. Many people said he'd be the next Lawrence Taylor (when Arrington first entered the league). Kind of the same way potentially great rookie safeties are compared to Ronnie Lott. Arrington has been solid, but his stats do not reflect Taylor type numbers. How many times did LA post 10+ sacks and 100+ tackles per season? LT had 7.5 sacks in 1991, when he was in the twilight of his career. Arrington only posted more than six sacks in a year just ONCE. Am I saying he's a bad player? NO. But he never did live up to the hype surrounding him.
While I agree he hasn't lived up to the hype I think it's a little unfair.
His hype coming out of college was unreal. The next LT? Tell me that's not unfair expectations. Nobody gave him the chance to become the next LaVar... but then again by taking the #56 LaVar didn't help the situation and it only fueled the hype even further.
I do think his career is far from over and he still has time to get back on track and re-establish himself as one of the more exciting defenders in the game.
It's just a question whether he'll have the chance to do that in a Redskins uniform or not.
FRPLG
02-23-2006, 09:39 AM
I say yes. I am a big fan of loyalty and doing the right thing by your employees. Treating him with a little extra respect goes a long way towards showing your other players that you care about them and want them to be happy which I think in turn helps you keep guys at lower costs and makes for an overall happier and more productive group. I don't think you make decisions that really hurt your team in deference to offering this extra respect but I think little (more manageable) concessions along they way would have been the best way to handle him.
TheMalcolmConnection
02-23-2006, 09:39 AM
I'm one of the one's who voted NO, BUT do you think that LaVar should give the REDSKINS special treatment when it comes to restructuring his contract to help out the team?