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Skins_4_Lyfe 02-18-2006, 09:00 PM Does anyone remember this quote in a Washington Post article back when Joe Gibbs and Greg Williams came on board?
"Washington gives the Redskins another linebacker in addition to LaVar Arrington with an ability to rush the passer. Washington, who compiled 18 sacks in the past four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts, appears likely to play strongside linebacker. The change would move Arrington to weakside linebacker -- Armstead's old spot -- which would give Arrington a better path to the quarterback. Williams also plans to often use Arrington at defensive end on third downs. Arrington had a career-high 11 sacks in 2002 when then-defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis used him in that capacity.
Gibbs called Washington and Arrington "double jeopardy," alluding to their pass-rushing ability."
I'm quite sure Williams never lived up to his plans for Lavar. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen him lined up at DE post Greg Williams (even in 2004 before the injury). During the three games that Lavar was sidelined our defense produced 2 sacks. With a performance like that I would be willing to try anything. You can't blow an assignment if your on the field to rush the QB. LT became famous doing just that as he wasn't the most disciplined of players.
I would hate to see Lavar go elsewhere and return to his Pro-Bowl statis.
That Guy 02-18-2006, 09:18 PM who knows, we've talked about it before, and i haven't really heard a great reason besides he lost speed ddue to the injury... I'm all for increased sack count.
Schneed10 02-18-2006, 10:22 PM Does anyone remember this quote in a Washington Post article back when Joe Gibbs and Greg Williams came on board?
"Washington gives the Redskins another linebacker in addition to LaVar Arrington with an ability to rush the passer. Washington, who compiled 18 sacks in the past four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts, appears likely to play strongside linebacker. The change would move Arrington to weakside linebacker -- Armstead's old spot -- which would give Arrington a better path to the quarterback. Williams also plans to often use Arrington at defensive end on third downs. Arrington had a career-high 11 sacks in 2002 when then-defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis used him in that capacity.
Gibbs called Washington and Arrington "double jeopardy," alluding to their pass-rushing ability."
I'm quite sure Williams never lived up to his plans for Lavar. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen him lined up at DE post Greg Williams (even in 2004 before the injury). During the three games that Lavar was sidelined our defense produced 2 sacks. With a performance like that I would be willing to try anything. You can't blow an assignment if your on the field to rush the QB. LT became famous doing just that as he wasn't the most disciplined of players.
I would hat to see Lavar go elsewhere and return to his Pro-Bowl statis.
Ever stop to think that the reason Lavar didn't show up on the field much at DE (or LB for that matter) was because he didn't deserve it?
I don't think it's Gregg Williams' fault that Lavar wasn't on the field. I think it's Lavar's fault. If it weren't for the cap constraints, I'd love to see him gone from the team.
GoSkins! 02-18-2006, 10:24 PM Think about it like this. Lavar plays all out all the time. He got injured and he wasn't 100%. The type of injury Lavar had was easily aggrivated and hard to fully recover from.
Now, with that in mind, is it a good idea to line him (253 lbs.) up against OTs (300+) consitantly? Even when he was fully healthy, Lavar said that rushing from the DE position took a toll on him physically. That was part of why he didn't want to do it.
If he was used that way in 2005, there may have not been a 2006 for Lavar anywhere.
bigm29 02-18-2006, 10:33 PM Think about it like this. Lavar plays all out all the time. He got injured and he wasn't 100%. The type of injury Lavar had was easily aggrivated and hard to fully recover from.
Now, with that in mind, is it a good idea to line him (253 lbs.) up against OTs (300+) consitantly? Even when he was fully healthy, Lavar said that rushing from the DE position took a toll on him physically. That was part of why he didn't want to do it.
If he was used that way in 2005, there may have not been a 2006 for Lavar anywhere.
ever hear of Robert Mathis (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396031)? 6-2, 235, and he got 11.5 sacks
shallyshal 02-18-2006, 10:40 PM Does anyone remember this quote in a Washington Post article back when Joe Gibbs and Greg Williams came on board?
"Washington gives the Redskins another linebacker in addition to LaVar Arrington with an ability to rush the passer. Washington, who compiled 18 sacks in the past four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts, appears likely to play strongside linebacker. The change would move Arrington to weakside linebacker -- Armstead's old spot -- which would give Arrington a better path to the quarterback. Williams also plans to often use Arrington at defensive end on third downs. Arrington had a career-high 11 sacks in 2002 when then-defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis used him in that capacity.
Gibbs called Washington and Arrington "double jeopardy," alluding to their pass-rushing ability."
I'm quite sure Williams never lived up to his plans for Lavar. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen him lined up at DE post Greg Williams (even in 2004 before the injury). During the three games that Lavar was sidelined our defense produced 2 sacks. With a performance like that I would be willing to try anything. You can't blow an assignment if your on the field to rush the QB. LT became famous doing just that as he wasn't the most disciplined of players.
I would hat to see Lavar go elsewhere and return to his Pro-Bowl statis.
lavar has been unable to stay healthy.. and unable to keep from blowing coverages.. not too bad for someone making vet minimum salary... totally unacceptable for someone about to cost the team 12 mil in cap dollars..
shallyshal 02-18-2006, 10:44 PM Think about it like this. Lavar plays all out all the time. He got injured and he wasn't 100%. The type of injury Lavar had was easily aggrivated and hard to fully recover from.
Now, with that in mind, is it a good idea to line him (253 lbs.) up against OTs (300+) consitantly? Even when he was fully healthy, Lavar said that rushing from the DE position took a toll on him physically. That was part of why he didn't want to do it.
If he was used that way in 2005, there may have not been a 2006 for Lavar anywhere.
i see the skins are thinking seriously about drafting tapp to play def end. he is 255 and 6' 1" and will be going up against those same tackles. is that a mistake too?
seriously, lavar has enough size and strength but lacks technique coming off the edge. he tends to plow right into those tackles and get swallowed up. even chris clemons seemed to have better technique.
perhaps lavar is not fully over his injuries and perhaps he is not suited well for rushing the passer from that spot... i do not know for certain but lavars production has certainly diminished inthat regard
EXoffender 02-18-2006, 10:48 PM ...I would hat to see Lavar go elsewhere and return to his Pro-Bowl statis.Cut the cord my friend. Cut the cord.
Skins_4_Lyfe 02-18-2006, 10:53 PM Ever stop to think that the reason Lavar didn't show up on the field much at DE (or LB for that matter) was because he didn't deserve it?
I don't think it's Gregg Williams' fault that Lavar wasn't on the field. I think it's Lavar's fault. If it weren't for the cap constraints, I'd love to see him gone from the team.
thats kinda harsh...
70Chip 02-18-2006, 11:42 PM Ever stop to think that the reason Lavar didn't show up on the field much at DE (or LB for that matter) was because he didn't deserve it?
I don't think it's Gregg Williams' fault that Lavar wasn't on the field. I think it's Lavar's fault. If it weren't for the cap constraints, I'd love to see him gone from the team.
First, I would preface this by saying that some knee injuries take a couple of years to completely recover from. (Some never heal). If this were the case with Lavar and he were willing to restructure, I might keep him.
However, Lavar says he is 100% and it is not clear if he would restructure. There is no way the Redskins can keep him given his contract and the current state of his play. He not only seems unsure of his asignments, but he also looks physically slow and overweight. I thought I was alone in that but Riggins said the same thing on the last RR of the season.
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