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That Guy 02-08-2006, 07:36 PM you need a SS, who do you have helping taylor really, and you need another ILB this isn't huge need urgent needs but still it is a need
at lb behind lemar, arrington and washington we have clemons and mccune (who may not be ready to play yet). washington can play inside though and clemons can be reasonable spot starter. I don't think holdman will be back, an a reserve lb is in my list of needs, but it not as important as TE #2, neither is SS. PP and clark are good enough and an upgrade there wont make as much a difference as a better TE. I'm assusming arringotn is back until told otherwise though.
shallyshal 02-08-2006, 07:48 PM at lb behind lemar, arrington and washington we have clemons and mccune (who may not be ready to play yet). washington can play inside though and clemons can be reasonable spot starter. I don't think holdman will be back, an a reserve lb is in my list of needs, but it not as important as TE #2, neither is SS. PP and clark are good enough and an upgrade there wont make as much a difference as a better TE. I'm assusming arringotn is back until told otherwise though.
just to point out that the patriots had graham and still took ben watson..
i think the skins have greater needs than TE. a lot will depend upon how free agency opens up.
who knows, if we sign a def end and a number 2 receiver in free agency and one of the premier tight ends slides to us in round 2, it might be tempting.
still would prefer another def lineman or off lineman with that pick, but if the TE is one of the better blockers and not a receiving te (byrd, i.e.) it might be worth considering.
for sanders offense we still have cooley and possibly manny white.. plus maybe johnson learned to block this offseason
While I would certianly agree that a #2 WR is our biggest need, and probably a pass rushing DE, I think an in-line TE would be a huge boost as well. And I think this is the draft to do it as it is amazingly deep at TE. I realized this after reading Mel Kiper's mailbag...essentially picking at #22 in the 2nd round we could get a guy who would normally go in the mid-late first round (and Im not talking specifically about Mercedes Lewis) because of the insane depth of the 2006 TE class. I am a huge proponent of choosing the best available player, and not necessarily drafting for need...I am curious to hear what you all think.
The portion of the article to which I am refering is posted below:
Why do you have Mercedes Lewis as the sixth-best tight end in this year's draft? I know there are three really good juniors in the draft, but you had Lewis as the best senior tight end for most of the season. -- Wes, Santa Barbara, Calif.
His stock dropped late in the year. Lewis didn't finish as strong as some of the others and didn't distinguish himself at the Senior Bowl practices or game. USC's Dominique Byrd (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=137031) had a better Senior Bowl week, as did Colorado's Joe Klopfenstein (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=135535). Owen Daniels (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=113746) has great pass-catching abilities as an H-back.
The juniors (Vernon Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=145820), Leonard Pope (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=133497), Anthony Fasano (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=134719)) already were ahead of Lewis. In a year this strong with tight ends, being ranked sixth is not criticism. What Lewis had to do was play great football at the end of the year, and I don't think he did. I wanted to see him take over the practices at the Senior Bowl as a pass-receiving option, but he did not. The tight end position is one of the best, if not the best, position in this draft. In a normal year, Lewis would be one of the top two or three at the position, but this is a great year for tight ends.
No need for a TE, because Al Saunders will put Cooley at that Position..... no more H-Back...situation, thats not his Offense........so Let's get a #2...or DE no need to get a TE unless he's a for sure......Superstar
shallyshal 02-08-2006, 07:49 PM at lb behind lemar, arrington and washington we have clemons and mccune (who may not be ready to play yet). washington can play inside though and clemons can be reasonable spot starter. I don't think holdman will be back, an a reserve lb is in my list of needs, but it not as important as TE #2, neither is SS. PP and clark are good enough and an upgrade there wont make as much a difference as a better TE. I'm assusming arringotn is back until told otherwise though.
don't forget about kahary campbell. he played a fair amount of ILB last season- especially in goal line formations. he has gotten better
dmek25 02-08-2006, 08:21 PM the skins should take the best available defensive lineman,no question
drew54 02-08-2006, 08:28 PM But unfortunately it's not really Gibbs's system anymore. It's going to maintain the basic form but it's Saunders system and he had TG playing a significant role in that system.
Not really, he has been slipping in Fantasy football the last couple of years.
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That Guy 02-09-2006, 09:11 AM for sanders offense we still have cooley and possibly manny white.. plus maybe johnson learned to block this offseason
except white is a running back that did poorly in trying to transition to hback and then got put on ir last year. that's not exactly a surefire solution
#56fanatic 02-09-2006, 10:39 AM That would be insane to draft a TE. we have about 20 on the roster already. Draft a DE, unless a VERY GOOD WR drops to us. Get depth at either D-Line or O-line later in the draft. 3rd round a corner or safety. We need some secondary depth, BAD. I personally would trade Ramsey for picks. you can never have too many picks. and pick up a veteran FA QB. there are going to be plenty out there.
That Guy 02-09-2006, 10:55 AM That would be insane to draft a TE. we have about 20 on the roster already. Draft a DE, unless a VERY GOOD WR drops to us. Get depth at either D-Line or O-line later in the draft. 3rd round a corner or safety. We need some secondary depth, BAD. I personally would trade Ramsey for picks. you can never have too many picks. and pick up a veteran FA QB. there are going to be plenty out there.
20 crappy TEs doesn't equal 2 good ones.
the difference is in the 2nd round you can either get a sure starter at TE or OG or SS or you can get a spare part WR/DE with no promises of contributing next year at all. The WR corp this year isn't just weak, its bad. DE/DT has talent though. you HAVE to draft OL, and remember last time we took OL later on? one lasted a year and the other looks like he'll never play. If you want a guy that can start, the 5th round is NOT the place to find him. Gibs needs althletic guards and even the bad ones are generally gone by then.
amorentz 02-09-2006, 01:41 PM 20 crappy TEs doesn't equal 2 good ones.
the difference is in the 2nd round you can either get a sure starter at TE or OG or SS or you can get a spare part WR/DE with no promises of contributing next year at all. The WR corp this year isn't just weak, its bad. DE/DT has talent though. you HAVE to draft OL, and remember last time we took OL later on? one lasted a year and the other looks like he'll never play. If you want a guy that can start, the 5th round is NOT the place to find him. Gibs needs althletic guards and even the bad ones are generally gone by then.
I really agree with this, and it was essentially the reason I posted the thread. I think that rather than focusing on a pressing need and reaching on a player, it might be a good year to get an excellent value player. On the other hand, if and excellent WR falls to us then it obviously makes sense to draft for need AND value.
My point on the thread wasnt that we HAVE to draft a TE, but that it may make sense for us to in a bang-for-your-buck sort of way.
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