Dirtbag59
02-04-2006, 07:53 PM
Now before this thread gets locked down give me a chance to explain myself.
Over the past few years there have been some rich Wide Reciever drafts and even though all these prospects haven't panned out, the fact of the matter is that there was lots of depth. Fast forward to the 2006 Draft. Honestly this is one of the most talented draft pools I've seen in a long time. The reason it might not get the credit it deserves is a lot of that talent is at grunt positons like Tackle. However this year no ones a sure thing at Wide Out. Some boards have the best Wide Out, Santio Holmes, going in the late-first to the early second and we have a pretty good idea how those guys usually turn out (Pinkston, Mitchell, Woods, and if he doesn't get his act together soon Michael Jenkins)
What I want to know is does anybody know of any up and coming game changing Recievers that will probably be a top 5 pick in 2007 and beyond, or has college football simply run out of truly elite Recievers?
That Guy
02-04-2006, 10:33 PM
samarjdza is taller and WAY better than stoval but he might become a pitcher instead of an NFL WR, which would be sad... he's a game changer.
S Moss has the best chance at putting up numbers day 1, but may never be a #1 and requires a bit of a scheme change from normal NFL playcalling (more reserve and screens like CAR and WAS use). I think Holmes is the best long term prospect (taller santana clone with a higher chance to be a true #1 than sinorice), but might take a bit longer to get up to speed. Outside of that there's some big guys, but no one amazing. (J Orr is the fastest tall guy i believe, at 6'3")
I agree the draft sucks at WR, hence why i rather get better talent than drafting a potshot at a need. We could get a starter at G or TE eaily with our first pick and a bidwell like punter for the next 20 years, so i'm hoping we don't waste picks on WRs or DEs that aren't that great.
there'ss 7 TEs that would be better than royal, 5 or so would of which would be significant (almost guaranteed) to become the #2.
in the 3rd we can get mcclover at DE for a situational pass rusher (DE/OLB type thats pretty solid and bigger/faster than clemons who currently fills a similar role).
torp is a good punter, spencer is a VERY athletic guard (Which is rare) and could play tackle too, meaning he'd be our reserve starter for the OL and could even replace doc if he plays well enough (doc is big, but slow, this guy could possibly pull like randy).
we'll definately have a shot at good people, and i' prefer guys that have a high chance to make immediate contributions than guys that'd take a couple years to make good. if we want a starting DE that's a serious upgrade to wynn (who could then be our #2/#3 DT) FA is a much better option. by the time we pick we have undersized/undermuscled tapp who could eventually be good and little else... in FA we can get kampman and make it a done deal.
there's also safeties like greg blue and some decent nickel corners out there. We don't need an elite RB or QB or #1 WR and our D performs well enough right now that we can get what we want without a 1st rounder. I don't think greg blue would be a day 1 starter, but clark is good enough and it'd be a young body in the somewhat old db pool that could come in situationally until he can step up.
That Guy
02-04-2006, 10:52 PM
*Just want to clarify that I do believe tapp is good and he will be a DL starter in the NFL (too slow to play LB in most schemes), but i don't think he'll be an impact player in the short term and when he does hit his stride... I don't know how much better he'll be than wynn/daniels. It wouln't be a horrible move because he adds talented youth to the DL that will eventually pay off, but as for his 1-2 year impact, I don't think he's the best choice.
#56fanatic
02-06-2006, 08:26 AM
I think Tapp is too small to play DE in the NFL. He may be able to play in a 3-4 scheme where he is one of the OLB, but way to undersized for DE in the NFL. I think he is like 250lbs, 6 foot tall. That is almost almost the size of Taylor who play FS. I am not sure about his speed, but he may be able to OLB.
That Guy
02-06-2006, 11:33 AM
I think Tapp is too small to play DE in the NFL. He may be able to play in a 3-4 scheme where he is one of the OLB, but way to undersized for DE in the NFL. I think he is like 250lbs, 6 foot tall. That is almost almost the size of Taylor who play FS. I am not sure about his speed, but he may be able to OLB.
he'd be a very slow OLB... then again, if he lost weight maybe he'd just be on the slow side. I think he's much more likely to bulk up and move to DT then into a 3-4 OLB spot (mcclover and lawson are MUCH better prepared for that, in part because of their speed). If we do take a DE we should focus on mcclover or lawson (3rd-4th i believe) to use as situational pass rushers, cause the actual well rounded DEs (like m williams, hali etc) will be gone by that point and whats left won't be passing wynn or daniels in all likelyhood.