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i'd have to respectfully disagree with that statement just for the simple fact that it is the MEDIA voters that are keeping monk out of the hof. that fact alone, shows just how much out of touch the media is with the understanding of the game known as the NFL. seems like every FAN or EX PLAYER, when asked about monk not being in the hof , all say that it is a crime that he hasn't been voted in yet.
media people are too interrested in providing a "GOOD STORY" moreso than understanding the true interworkings of a successfull footbal team. media folk fall in love with players like micheal irving, dion sanders, etc....players that always give them something to write about. media folk don't recognize how good monk was or how much monk meant to the skins or how well monk played the game by doing the other things like blocking for a teammate or making a catch for a first down to keep a drive going or being a smart player by not commiting penalties or always knowing were the first down marker is.
media people have no clue to the importance and value that monk possessed. he never cared to speak with the media therfore the media payed no attention to him.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many fans outside of DC who know that either. Or current players. We're talking the lesser evil here, and the media is it. As I have said before, I think the proper check on them is to limit the time people serve on the Board.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many fans outside of DC who know that either. Or current players. We're talking the lesser evil here, and the media is it. As I have said before, I think the proper check on them is to limit the time people serve on the Board.


any fan who was watching the nfl during the 80's knows who art monk is.
you may be correct about current players but thats why i suggested former players.
the only media people who know who art monk is are the ones that covered the redskins.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many fans outside of DC who know that either. Or current players. We're talking the lesser evil here, and the media is it. As I have said before, I think the proper check on them is to limit the time people serve on the Board.


are you a fan of football ? if so, can you not name the stars or important players from every team in the nfl ?

i live in the DC area but i can tell you who the stars are for every team in the nfl, not just the redskins.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many fans outside of DC who know that either. Or current players. We're talking the lesser evil here, and the media is it. As I have said before, I think the proper check on them is to limit the time people serve on the Board.

Believe me, anybody who watched football in the 80's knows who Art Monk is and what kind of football player he was. There's no excuses, he should've already been in the hall of fame.

Believe me, anybody who watched football in the 80's knows who Art Monk is and what kind of football player he was. There's no excuses, he should've already been in the hall of fame.


They know about Art. It is openly prejudicial against the Redskins and everything in B&G!

Believe me, anybody who watched football in the 80's knows who Art Monk is and what kind of football player he was. There's no excuses, he should've already been in the hall of fame.

You nailed the exact problem with having fans vote. It's not "fans from the 80s" who are the problem. Monk wasn't eligible until 2000. That's a 10 year gap, and a lot of fans aren't big on history.

Look - Monk is the easy case. There is no legitimate argument for him not being in the Hall.

However, if we're talking about changing the rules, then you have to think about how those changes will affect the lower-visibility skill players and, more importantly, the non-skill positions. How many OL/DL would be in the Hall if fans did the voting? How many fans remember the top 10 linemen from the league 10 years ago? Some, I'm sure, but I sure don't.

Well, we'll find out Monk's fate tomorrow.

I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

Aikman, White and Madden seem to be sure things, beyond that though it seems the remaining guys are all on the fence and the HOF voters could go either way.

I heard John Clayton say he thinks Monk has a pretty good chance this year so we'll see.

You nailed the exact problem with having fans vote. It's not "fans from the 80s" who are the problem. Monk wasn't eligible until 2000. That's a 10 year gap, and a lot of fans aren't big on history.

Look - Monk is the easy case. There is no legitimate argument for him not being in the Hall.

However, if we're talking about changing the rules, then you have to think about how those changes will affect the lower-visibility skill players and, more importantly, the non-skill positions. How many OL/DL would be in the Hall if fans did the voting? How many fans remember the top 10 linemen from the league 10 years ago? Some, I'm sure, but I sure don't.

The ones who are making the decions know players from ten years ago....it just comes down to prejudice against certain players. Unfortunately, Art is on the receiving end.

The ones who are making the decions know players from ten years ago....it just comes down to prejudice against certain players. Unfortunately, Art is on the receiving end.

I don't think I ever said anything contradictory to this statement.

I don't think I ever said anything contradictory to this statement.

Was just a general statement.