Patrick Ramsey Vs Philip Rivers

I brought up the point, before, however that he was worth a first rounder when we got Brunell. Gibbs knew then who he wanted to run his O, we should have traded him then.

I know, hindsight's 20/20, but I thought we should have traded him then too.

There were rumors of the Dolphins offering a 1st, but who really knows how solid those rumors were.

Gibbs likes depth at QB and I think at that time he wasn't ready to completely give up on Ramsey.

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Really, I've got this from ESPN draft board, and at the time in question was his accuracy, but Gibbs has put that to rest.....he was more than a project on some people board he was a head of Rodgers......: .
Admittedly, I am going from memory. I do remember the general take by several talking heads that Campbell was a project in that I doubt you could find anyone who said he would be ready to start right away or even in his second year. If I am mistaken, so be it.

Dana87, there's nothing emotional about it, Ramsey is not worth a first round pick and that's not an emotional opinion, that's an opinion shared by nearly every NFL GM/scout/decision maker, it's just reality.

If you think Ramsey is worth a first round pick, then you my friend is the one with the emotional attachment.
Matty, I guess your not understanding my point. Once again I do not feel that Ramsey is worth a 1st round pick. Nor do I think Rivers is. But if someone is going to give you $10 for a dollar bill. It is a fair assumption that they should give me $10 for my dollar bill. After all your money is worth the same as mine. Hopfully that clears up my point a little.

Matty, I guess your not understanding my point. Once again I do not feel that Ramsey is worth a 1st round pick. Nor do I think Rivers is. But if someone is going to give you $10 for a dollar bill. It is a fair assumption that they should give me $10 for my dollar bill. After all your money is worth the same as mine. Hopfully that clears up my point a little.

That depends Dana87, a dollar bill from 1922 might not be worth as much as a dollar from, let's say 2004......

I'm just kidding, sweetie, I get your point:)

I think the other significant difference between ramsey and rivers trade value would be the situation of the starting quarterbacks for each team. rivers is behind a young quarterback who proved himself capable of performing at a pro bowl level after he (rivers) was drafted. and ramsey is behind an aging quarterback who performed extremely poorly his first year and was still not able to beat him out. having said that because of brees'es health status i believe if the chargers still want to trade rivers (which is unlikely) his value will be lower. The point im trying to make is i believe that trade value has alot to do with what you're current coaches think of you.

Matty, I guess your not understanding my point. Once again I do not feel that Ramsey is worth a 1st round pick. Nor do I think Rivers is. But if someone is going to give you $10 for a dollar bill. It is a fair assumption that they should give me $10 for my dollar bill. After all your money is worth the same as mine. Hopfully that clears up my point a little.

I understand your point.

In a perfect world you would get a 1st rounder in return for Ramsey since that's what it cost us, but obviously this isn't a perfect world.

What did we get for Rod Gardner? A 6th rounder?

Admittedly, I am going from memory. I do remember the general take by several talking heads that Campbell was a project in that I doubt you could find anyone who said he would be ready to start right away or even in his second year. If I am mistaken, so be it.

To me doesn't seem Smith or Rodgers were ready either.....so with being said, Jason Campbell could be the steal in the late rounds

To me doesn't seem Smith or Rodgers were ready either.....so with being said, Jason Campbell could be the steal in the late rounds

Whether he's a steal or not really remains to be seen. Either way because of what the Redskins gave up for him, in terms of draft picks, I think many are reserving judgement on this for at least three years.

Whether he's a steal or not really remains to be seen. Either way because of what the Redskins gave up for him, in terms of draft picks, I think many are reserving judgement on this for at least three years.

If the Redskins are willing to gamble on him.......then I say we made the right choice, once he get out there and start winning, I want here any of this doubt anymore