Clemons or Arrington?

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Big C
01-24-2006, 02:12 PM
Well if the guy was a two time pro-bowler before he got here and a two time pro-bowler after he played here do you blame the player or the coaches.

Given the swiss cheese "defenses" under Spurrier, I would blame the coaches. I remember going to the Tampa Bay game when they still had Keyshawn. The Bucs ran the same play three times in a row (I was literally in the last row behind the Bucs at the time and I could see the whole field if you know what I mean). It was a simple 3 receiver set and they put one wideout in motion going right to left setting up in the slot. First play, first down to McCardell (covered and tackled by Bowen). Second play first down to McCardell (covered and tackled by Bowen). Third play, Keyshawn fakes that he will turn around goes to the post and gets a 41 yard TD ("covered" by Bowen). I was beside myself.

I don't think that a lot of people realize how far they have come in two years. The defense under Spurrier made you want to throw up.

didnt we have marvin lewis and a top 5 defense one year spurrier was here?

Pocket$ $traight
01-24-2006, 02:16 PM
didnt we have marvin lewis and a top 5 defense one year spurrier was here?

Not the second year when they played the bucs.

EXoffender
01-24-2006, 02:18 PM
Give both the ax! We can do better in FA or the draft. It's all about what Greg Williams wants out of that position.

TheMalcolmConnection
01-24-2006, 02:21 PM
According to ESPN.com:

Washington defense was 5th in 2002 and 25th in 2003.

That's quite a drop off over one year.

Big C
01-24-2006, 02:27 PM
According to ESPN.com:

Washington defense was 5th in 2002 and 25th in 2003.

That's quite a drop off over one year.

my point was that we had good defense the one year we had lewis and spurrier, so trotter was in a good defense

offiss
01-24-2006, 02:29 PM
easily arrington...all we know clemons can do is rush the passer really, and maybe cover some. run stopping, we havent seen it. lavar is a game changer


He most defiently can change a game, like in Seattle when they ran a run fake and hit their RB in the flat for a big firstdown while Arrington bit, only to see Williams yank him out of the lineup immediatly. whenever the opposing team needs a big play Arrington is willing to comply.

All Clemons can do is rush the passer? If Arrington could only do that.

TheMalcolmConnection
01-24-2006, 02:34 PM
my point was that we had good defense the one year we had lewis and spurrier, so trotter was in a good defense

I know. I'm just shocked at how there was such a drop off over one year.

jdlea
01-24-2006, 02:39 PM
He most defiently can change a game, like in Seattle when they ran a run fake and hit their RB in the flat for a big firstdown while Arrington bit, only to see Williams yank him out of the lineup immediatly. whenever the opposing team needs a big play Arrington is willing to comply.

All Clemons can do is rush the passer? If Arrington could only do that.

Not like that misdirection to Marcus Washington's side to Mack Strong. He was definitely in position on that play, that's why Mack Strong picked up his best run of his professional career. How come only LaVar gets blamed when "big" plays happen? Who was screwing up the D against Denver and Kansas City when LaVar was watching the game?

TheMalcolmConnection
01-24-2006, 02:44 PM
That was Warrick Holdman. I really WOULD love to see another LB step up, "just in case".

SmootSmack
01-24-2006, 02:45 PM
2006 is the year of Campbell....Khary Campbell!!!!

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