Al Saunders Press Conference

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12thMan
01-23-2006, 03:39 PM
I think Gibbs has shown his real strength is in personell management and leading. He won't let this become a "too many cooks in the kitchen" deal. That thought isn't lost on him. Let's be honest. Even the most diehard Gibbs supporters(me included) recognized that the offense probably had some fundamental issues that they were failing to overcome. They have had the same offensive coaches for two years but weren't able to get over the hump. I doubt seriously if Gibbs looked at the situation and didn't realize that while bringing in someone like Saunders would help it would also marginalize some of his guys. The move was made because it was best for the Skins and if some coaches feelings are hurt because they get less input than before then that is just the way it is. Gibbs isn't going to let it become a free for all with no singular concrete direction or philosophy.

I pretty much felt the same, not quite as articulate, however.

But there are some, even locally, starting to make light of us having the largest coaching staff in the NFL and how this could be counter-productive, especially if Saunders doesn't enlist some of his lieutenants from KC.

Dana87
01-23-2006, 03:45 PM
And honestly Saunders doesn't come without knowing he is going to get the autonomy he had in KC. He could get a HC if he went hard for it in Oakland. He isn't taking a thankless subserviant role here. he is gonna be the offense pilot here and he knows it.
Saunders also made another very interesting comment. He said that he told his wife that this will be the last move. So at the very least it looks like he will be here for the length of his contract.

celts32
01-23-2006, 03:48 PM
I didn't hear any mention of Saunders bringing coaches here with him from KC. is it possible that since Gibbs and Saunders are from the same coaching tree that they understand and can teach this offense with the current assistant coaches?

FRPLG
01-23-2006, 03:49 PM
I pretty much felt the same, not quite as articulate, however.

But there are some, even locally, starting to make light of us having the largest coaching staff in the NFL and how this could be counter-productive, especially if Saunders doesn't enlist some of his lieutenants from KC.
People always bag on the Skins. I don't know if it is because we are fans and focus on the negativity that we feel this way or what. Maybe fans of other teams feel similarly about their team. I don't know. I do know that it seems no matter what the Skins do there are always a significant group of media types, former players, league personell who seem to always find or create negative points to raise when the Skins do something. I really think if Andy Reid pulls a move like going out and getting the two best coordinators he can find and paying them top dollar to do their magic for his team that everyone would hail him as a genius. Not a nary would be said about "too many cooks in the kitchen". People hate the Skins for some reason so I have grown to expect it. Imagine if we had won the SB this year. I can guarantee that one of the more major sentiments we would hear would be something along the lines of "the worst SB winning team ever". It has become comically obvious that these feelings exist. When the leading internet NFL insider for the leading sports broadcasting company in the world says things like "You'll never win a SB with this coach" or "I hate you f%^&ers" it shows just how bad it has gotten.

12thMan
01-23-2006, 04:03 PM
People always bag on the Skins. I don't know if it is because we are fans and focus on the negativity that we feel this way or what. Maybe fans of other teams feel similarly about their team. I don't know. I do know that it seems no matter what the Skins do there are always a significant group of media types, former players, league personell who seem to always find or create negative points to raise when the Skins do something. I really think if Andy Reid pulls a move like going out and getting the two best coordinators he can find and paying them top dollar to do their magic for his team that everyone would hail him as a genius. Not a nary would be said about "too many cooks in the kitchen". People hate the Skins for some reason so I have grown to expect it. Imagine if we had won the SB this year. I can guarantee that one of the more major sentiments we would hear would be something along the lines of "the worst SB winning team ever". It has become comically obvious that these feelings exist. When the leading internet NFL insider for the leading sports broadcasting company in the world says things like "You'll never win a SB with this coach" or "I hate you f%^&ers" it shows just how bad it has gotten.

That's so funny how that would have most definitely been ESPN's thing had we won the Super Bowl. "The worst team ever to win a Super Bowl." I could hear it now.

As long as we can put together 11 or so wins next year, I could really care less. One positive that came from the Seattle loss is that the team can feel like at least they bowed out the eventual NFC champs.

Winskins
01-23-2006, 04:25 PM
Hmm...with all of your comments, especially the one about Saunders telling his wife that this would be the last move, I got a thought into my head. Innovation is a huge part of the NFL, and with that being said, do you think that there could end up being two head coaches some time in the future (i.e. Gregg Williams- Head Coach of Defense, Al Saunders- Head Coach of Offense). I think this would be a very interesting concept and it could make a very powerful team. Who knows, something like that could revolutionize the NFL...

gortiz
01-23-2006, 04:33 PM
Didn't see the presser, but the ommission of Ramsey is very telling I think.

Well it could be damage control, but A. Saunders was on NFL coach speak right after the presser and he praised Ramsey up and down and said he had the luxery of having two #! QB's in him and Brunell .... said he followed out of college and was interested in getting him??

VTSkins897
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Hmm...with all of your comments, especially the one about Saunders telling his wife that this would be the last move, I got a thought into my head. Innovation is a huge part of the NFL, and with that being said, do you think that there could end up being two head coaches some time in the future (i.e. Gregg Williams- Head Coach of Defense, Al Saunders- Head Coach of Offense). I think this would be a very interesting concept and it could make a very powerful team. Who knows, something like that could revolutionize the NFL...

thats interesting. i mean its almost set up like that now. we have an offense coach who will likely call the plays in saunders. williams we know handles defense. neither wants to leave the area. i said this in another thread but being that saunders likely could have coached elsewhere, maybe he's willing to take "less" money to just be OC. that is an interesting thought and snyder certainly has the dough.

12thMan
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Hmm...with all of your comments, especially the one about Saunders telling his wife that this would be the last move, I got a thought into my head. Innovation is a huge part of the NFL, and with that being said, do you think that there could end up being two head coaches some time in the future (i.e. Gregg Williams- Head Coach of Defense, Al Saunders- Head Coach of Offense). I think this would be a very interesting concept and it could make a very powerful team. Who knows, something like that could revolutionize the NFL...

Well in a sense, but if you look at the '85 Bears...They had Ditka and Buddy Ryan. The titles really didn't suggest it, but they were pretty much run like they two head coaches. But ultimately, there needs to one head where the direction, game planning and key personnel issues flow from. One person will always shoulder the responsibilty and be accountable for the success or failure of the team, however.

skinsguy
01-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Heck, it's pretty much set up now where we have, potientially, three head coaches! As long as everybody is on the same page - and I have no doubts they will be - this is going to be great for us! I'll have to watch the presser when I get home. Interesting interpretation concerning Patrick Ramsey.

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