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01-20-2006, 10:35 AM
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backrow
01-20-2006, 10:59 AM
:coach: let campbell and brunell duke it out in training camp no one for the skins is ever given a starting postion everyone has to earn it all over again may the best qb win! but as far as ramsey goes he is out to much damage has been done!
Welcome Soldier! Glad you came to the Forum!
Some have mentioned a Brunell retirement, and P. Ram back as #1 or #2.
railcon56
01-20-2006, 11:31 AM
I said it before, and I will say it again, we will regreat in the long haul giving up on Ramsey!
Until he's officially out of here I will not give up!!!!!!!! :biggthump
I'M with you on this one!!!
I can't wait to see Ramsey tear it up elsewhere. ;)
We really haven't come to regret any of the players we've let leave so far under Gibbs, outside of maybe Pierce but Marshall has proved to be a more than capable replacement.
hesscl34
01-20-2006, 12:11 PM
If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.
Dude - CHILL OUT! We made it to the Divisoanl play off game WITH Brunell. No matter what you say Brunell was a leader. He has experience and he can run and scramble.
You are going to miss A LOT of good games in 06 with that attitude!
12thMan
01-20-2006, 12:13 PM
I can't wait to see Ramsey tear it up elsewhere. ;)
We really haven't come to regret any of the players we've let leave so far under Gibbs, outside of maybe Pierce but Marshall has proved to be a more than capable replacement.
I think it's reasonable to say Marshall will be even better next year. Moreover, he's not nearly as expensive as Pierce, which will probably go a long way in us signing some key people this year.
Beemnseven
01-20-2006, 01:09 PM
Green has the intangible ability to understand how a play is developing and make the right decision. Montana and Aikman were two of the best you will ever have seen at this. Also I would add Joe Namath and Tom Brady.
It's interesting that you would add Joe Namath to that mix. I've heard from several people that Namath was WAY overrated -- famous and memorable only because of his "guarantee" that his Jets would beat the heavily favored Colts in the Super Bowl. The coaches were reportedly so nervous about Namath that they refused to allow him to throw the ball at all in the fourth quarter of that game while the Jets held the lead.
Mark Brunell seems to be able to see about half of the field - usually the left side ... What he can't do well is look off an intermediate receiver on his left and find an intermediate receiver on his right, or vice versa.
Exactly. Remember when he tried to throw a pass across the field against Tampa Bay in the Wild Card? The result was disasterous. Without a doubt, even when Brunell and the offense was peaking, it was either Moss or Cooley that enabled the Skins to move the ball through the air, or it just wasn't going to happen. Now, the question remains, was that due to ineptitude from the #2, and #3 wide receivers, one of the flaws of Brunell, or both?
offiss
01-20-2006, 01:27 PM
It's interesting that you would add Joe Namath to that mix. I've heard from several people that Namath was WAY overrated -- famous and memorable only because of his "guarantee" that his Jets would beat the heavily favored Colts in the Super Bowl. The coaches were reportedly so nervous about Namath that they refused to allow him to throw the ball at all in the fourth quarter of that game while the Jets held the lead.
Exactly. Remember when he tried to throw a pass across the field against Tampa Bay in the Wild Card? The result was disasterous. Without a doubt, even when Brunell and the offense was peaking, it was either Moss or Cooley that enabled the Skins to move the ball through the air, or it just wasn't going to happen. Now, the question remains, was that due to ineptitude from the #2, and #3 wide receivers, one of the flaws of Brunell, or both?
Basically the chicken or the egg debate we've been having here for the past week.
I still believe once we get a bonfied QB running the offense everyone will see how inafective Brunell really is.
Brunell IMO held back this team.
12thMan
01-20-2006, 01:30 PM
Basically the chicken or the egg debate we've been having here for the past week.
I still believe once we get a bonfied QB running the offense everyone will see how inafective Brunell really is.
Brunell IMO held back this team.
Statistically Brunell had a good year. So when you say he held the team back, are you refering to his inability to get the ball downfield??
offiss
01-20-2006, 01:56 PM
Statistically Brunell had a good year. So when you say he held the team back, are you refering to his inability to get the ball downfield??
His inability to win, anyone and everyone knows we went to the playoffs because of one reason and one reason only, and that's our defense.
We don't beat Philli to get in if it's not for our defense, and we sure don't beat Tampa for the same reasons, bottom line the defense carried Brunells inability to move the offense. The slightest bit of help from Brunell and were playing Carolina for the championship this sunday!