Campbell Draft day trade

We really didn't give up a 1, 2, & 4. we only gave up a 2 & 4 to use '06 #1 in '05. No matter what we used the pick for that in it's self is good value. The QB possition has to be the hardest to evaluate in the NFL. I can't tell you how many supposed 1st rnd guy's have been total busts, and how many late rnd guys have become franchise QB's. When ever you take a QB in the 1st rnd it's a huge risk I don't care where is ranked. My point is the fact that we have an extra year to develope our next QB. Whether he is Gibbs' Next Super Bowl QB or not really isn't the point.

And hence, there may lie the greatest ulitmate value to Campbell's career. That one year of sitting may be the difference maker for him.

I know there are two schools of thought on that one. Some believe you get better by learning the system and playing later and some believe you should get in there, make your mistakes, and get aquainted with the system as you go along. Both have some merrit.

It was actually a 3rd round pick in 2005 and 4th in 2006. We didnt have a 2nd rounder last year because we traded our 2005 2nd for a 2004 3rd (used to select Cooley...lets see you guys complain about THAT trade!).

A 3rd and a 4th is nothing to swap a 2005 1st for a 2006 if the picks are similar (which they are 25 and 22). Now if we had finished 2-14 it would be a different story!

It depends, you also have to take into account that Campbell was projected as a mid second rd pick, so to give up a #1, #2, and a #4 is quite excesive for a mid 2nd rd pick.


Brilliant Offiss!

They made a trade to get into position to take aguy they wanted for the future. In doing so they gave up a 2nd and 5th rounder and simply moved the 1st rounder like Dana said. Everyone can say "well he was projected to go early second round" but if they wanted him and this was the only spot they could get then they didn't give up too much. How do we know they didn't have three other deals for later picks asking for the same amount or more. I don't think giving up a 2nd and 5th rounder to get a guy you really want is thta big a deal. If he turns out as good as they think no one will question it. The question will be whether people admit they were wrong. I know they'll gloat if he isn't as good as the Skins think.

My problem with the move for Campbell had more to do with Campbell himself than what we gave up for him. I don't mind giving up any amount of picks for a spectacular QB who can lead us to a Super Bowl. Problem is, I just don't see Campbell as being that guy.......I've just never been sold on him.

At this early stage, I think it's far to early to try to guage whether it was a good move or not. Until he proves to be either great or a bust, how can we even argue the point?

washington had most likely heard that someone before the 2nd round was looking to draft campbell, so they pulled the trigger on a deal.

My guess looking back is that the Cleveland Browns would have taken him with the 3rd pick of the second round (they took Charlie Frye in that position if I'm not mistaken).

It depends, you also have to take into account that Campbell was projected as a mid second rd pick, so to give up a #1, #2, and a #4 is quite excesive for a mid 2nd rd pick.
They didn't. They gave up a 1,2 and 4 for a 1. You can quibble with who they took but logically that should be a seperate issue. If they ended up drafting the greatest QB in football history it wouldn't matter either. Was the amount you paid for the pick equal in value to what you got? I say it was somewhat steep but not overly steep. They then took Campbell which may have been a misuse in terms of value because they could have taken him later but I really doubt they simply traded up too high. These guys know what is going and for some reason I imagien they thought if they went any lower they took too great a risk.

This is not a comment on you offiss but so many people around complain that we don't draft well and then they complain when we trade the picks away to get a player we want. If we aren't drafting well what do they care if we traded pcisk awya since we don't use our picks in any good way anyways.

At this early stage, I think it's far to early to try to guage whether it was a good move or not. Until he proves to be either great or a bust, how can we even argue the point?
You're right. It really is moot to discuss now.

They didn't. They gave up a 1,2 and 4 for a 1. You can quibble with who they took but logically that should be a seperate issue. If they ended up drafting the greatest QB in football history it wouldn't matter either. Was the amount you paid for the pick equal in value to what you got? I say it was somewhat steep but not overly steep. They then took Campbell which may have been a misuse in terms of value because they could have taken him later but I really doubt they simply traded up too high. These guys know what is going and for some reason I imagien they thought if they went any lower they took too great a risk.

This is not a comment on you offiss but so many people around complain that we don't draft well and then they complain when we trade the picks away to get a player we want. If we aren't drafting well what do they care if we traded pcisk awya since we don't use our picks in any good way anyways.

My complaint is I want them to get it right with our picks, but it is true if we continue to pick poorly then it really isn't a big deal.

Although I will say this, we have picked fairly well in the first round, we havesn't had any seconds under Gibbs that I can remember, it's the later round picks that we have been lowsey with, and thats pretty much all will have this year, I believe we will have some wheeling and dealing to do before this draft hits, we can't sit pat on 1 #2 pick. Arrington I hope brings back some pick's.

As amorentz said before me.

Last year our #2 was traded to New Orleans the year before to move up and draft Cooley.

We only traded a #3 last year and this years #1 and #4.

Much better than a #2.

And this years #1 is the #22 pick. Campbell was the #25.

I think at the time last year I was just as pissed as most of you, but now that Ramsey is pretty much on his way out, and we had a winning season, I feel a lot better about the move.

Its funny how winning can cure those worries.