Any update on Campbell?

Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...

Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...
Nice Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you're full of it, because his stats tell us a completely different story!


in response to your response about brunell playing like crap in some games this year... 9/25 for 25 yards. That's a crappy game and there's no arguing that.

Come on TAF, your not going to compare Brunell to what Gannon was doing in Oakland are you? Wasen't Gannon a league MVP? [not sure] But I do know this, he was a significant cog in the oakland offense, he was a big reason why they won, that can't be said about Brunell.

I don't really feel a QB is incapable of winning the big one at 36, but he better be a very good QB to do so, which Brunell is not, and he is certainly not posting numbers like Gannon.



Just to piggy back on this, I believe gannon had 4,800 passing yards that year. Brunell has NEVER come anywhere close to those kinds of stats. I'm just slightly wary of brunell cause he gets injured a lot, he plays piss-poorly when he is hurt and he seems to lose his game down the stretch of the season. That and he's a scrambling QB that's getting older and even slower.

Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...

Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...


Yea, he admitted as much, it did seem like he was putting touch on those passes in the giant game.

I also agree that it would have been nice to see him get a little more playing time.

This column is right on.

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20060117-124142-3163r.htm

I thought his stat about 11 of Brunell's 23 TD passes being of 8 yards or fewer was interesting. I didn't know that, but was curious to compare that to how the four remaining QBs did in the same category

Hasselbeck: 10 of 24 TDs-8 yards or fewer
Delhomme: 8 of 24
Roethlisberger: 9 of 17
Plummer: 12 of 18

And, of course, we can't talk Brunell without throwing in a Ramsey comparison. Ramsey has thrown 24 TDs since 2003. And 12 of them were for 8 yards or fewer.

2005:

72 yards (Moss)

2004:

13 yards (Portis)
2 yards (Cooley)
4 Yards (Portis)
9 Yards (Royal)
6 yards (Cooley)
12 yards (Royal)
5 yards (Royal)
6 yards (Cooley)
4 yards (Royal)

2003:

4 yards (McCants)
21 yards (Gardner)
19 yards (Coles)
4 yards (McCants)
6 yards (Gardner)
32 yards (McCants)
2 yards (McCants)
25 yards (Gardner)
7 yards (Coles)
19 yards (Jacobs)
15 yards (Coles)
14 yards (Gardner)
4 yards (McCants)
10 yards (Johnson)

I thought his stat about 11 of Brunell's 23 TD passes being of 8 yards or fewer was interesting. I didn't know that, but was curious to compare that to how the four remaining QBs did in the same category

Hasselbeck: 10 of 24 TDs-8 yards or fewer
Delhomme: 8 of 24
Roethlisberger: 9 of 17
Plummer: 12 of 18

And, of course, we can't talk Brunell without throwing in a Ramsey comparison. Ramsey has thrown 24 TDs since 2003. And 12 of them were for 8 yards or fewer.

2005:

72 yards (Moss)

2004:

13 yards (Portis)
2 yards (Cooley)
4 Yards (Portis)
9 Yards (Royal)
6 yards (Cooley)
12 yards (Royal)
5 yards (Royal)
6 yards (Cooley)
4 yards (Royal)

2003:

4 yards (McCants)
21 yards (Gardner)
19 yards (Coles)
4 yards (McCants)
6 yards (Gardner)
32 yards (McCants)
2 yards (McCants)
25 yards (Gardner)
7 yards (Coles)
19 yards (Jacobs)
15 yards (Coles)
14 yards (Gardner)
4 yards (McCants)
10 yards (Johnson)

I think we kind of discussed this in another thread a while back, just looking at actual stats for passing yards, as well as length in passing TD's doesn't alway's tell the whole story for either side of the argument, obviously you can have a 80 yard WR hitch pass for a TD, and then put the ball in the air 60 yards for a TD, it's tough to gauge something like this with a stat sheet.

I think we kind of discussed this in another thread a while back, just looking at actual stats for passing yards, as well as length in passing TD's doesn't alway's tell the whole story for either side of the argument, obviously you can have a 80 yard WR hitch pass for a TD, and then put the ball in the air 60 yards for a TD, it's tough to gauge something like this with a stat sheet.

True, I just thought it was interesting since Daly (the columnist) pointed out-with an exclamation point I believe-as if it were so horribly abysmal and unlike any other successful QB in this league.

a TD is a TD, who cares how you get it? unless you're going to breakout a complete drive play by play for every possession of the entire season, TD reception length is a pretty useless stat. Maybe someone should e-mail daly and ask how the hell he thinks its relevant to anything at all.

You see the footage of Campbell on redskins.com? He looks incredible. But I did notice he telegraphed both of those passes. Even Brunell telegraphs to much. Maybe they haven't played the cone version of madden yet. Alot harder to connect on a fly anymore...

Don't you have to get the ball to the eight yard line to have an eight yard pass?