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RedskinPete 01-16-2006, 05:27 PM I think just about everybody on this site was not happy with our kicking game,I dont see Hall or Frost listed as free agents so i assume they are under contract and we would take a salary cap hit if we cut them,am I right on this? so ,can we even afford to go after new kickers?
this is a list of the free agent placekickers
Aaron Elling RFA Ravens
Adam Vinatieri UFA Patriots
Joe Nedney UFA 49ers
Jose Cortez UFA Eagles
Josh Brown RFA Seahawks
Matt Bryant UFA Buccaneers
Mike Vanderjagt UFA Colts
Paul Edinger UFA Vikings
Ryan Longwell UFA Packers
Todd Peterson UFA Falcons
I would love to have Vanderjet or Vinatieri,but they are probably out of our price range,Josh Brown would be excellent also
Nedney had a great year for SF and the cost might be right!!!
SkinsLB5607 01-16-2006, 05:28 PM "I would love to have Vanderjet or Vinatieri,but they are probably out of our price range,Josh Brown would be excellent also."
Josh Brown equals DOUCHEBAG After what he said b4 the divisional game = I'll Pass
Vanderjagt is worth 1 mil after his shank but it looks good on Manning.... that arrogant ASSHOLE "I'll Be a Good Teammate" and now Bradshaw called him out.
He is Canadian so I'd go for him and he is affordable
Vinatieri isn't as cheap but is more accurate and trusting in the clutch but I think the Pats will do a lot to resign him but if they don't then go 4 it but I think we either keep Hall or get Vanderjagt.
LongTimeSkinsFan 01-16-2006, 06:24 PM FWIW, I say track down Novak and sign him up. If we do need a new punter (assuming we're going to hate on Tupa and not give him a chance), draft one.
Brown is a trash talker that chokes. The only way I'd sign him would be for one game and one kick, just so the entire O-Line could lie down after the snap and let his pansy a$$ get wailed on by the other team. From what I heard Vanderjagt is a bit of a head case, and had some kind of run in with Manning. Vinatieri would be a great candidate with a clutch rep, but I'm guessing he'll be asking a lot. I wouldn't be opposed to Edinger either. I remember him having strong leg. I'd rather spend the big bucks on a quality #2 wideout especially since there's a good crop of them available in FA this year.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-16-2006, 06:50 PM In response to the thread's original question, I seriously doubt we'd have any trouble squeezing a punter and kicker's salary under the cap. Tupa and Hall are getting great money right now for their respective positions and no kickers or punters command huge salaries.
skindogger47 01-16-2006, 07:35 PM Novac is a pussy. Keep Tupa, cut Hall, and sign Nedney or Longwell. Tupa was HUGE to our special teams two years ago.
dgack 01-16-2006, 07:41 PM Novac is a pussy.
LOL, and you base this on... what, exactly? The fact that he broke every ACC kicking record and is 5th in NCAA history for career points scored?
celts32 01-16-2006, 09:13 PM As mad as I am about Hall's performance on Saturday, I would not cut him unless it's for a serious upgrade like Vanderjadt or Adam Vineteria. Hall is usually pretty reliable froma reasonable distance and I still remember a few years ago when our kickers couldn't make 30 yarders.
dgack 01-16-2006, 09:16 PM As mad as I am about Hall's performance on Saturday, I would not cut him unless it's for a serious upgrade like Vanderjadt or Adam Vineteria. Hall is usually pretty reliable froma reasonable distance and I still remember a few years ago when our kickers couldn't make 30 yarders.
The bigger problem with Hall is that he's never really recovered from the injury and you never know when he's going to come up gimpy and then we end up having to cut someone else to sign a kicker to a temporary contract (a la Nick Novak).
Personally I'd rather take a chance on a young guy with a strong leg like Novak, and see what he can do, than be happy with a guy who's (usually) good at making 40 yarders.
Gibbs should not have to punt every time we can't get past the 25.
htownskinfan 01-16-2006, 10:09 PM I dont care about Josh brown mouthing off,shoes he has passion for his team,and Van would keep his mouth shut,he learned his lesson,some people are for our punter and kciker and some are against,1 has to go,we either need a punter who can kick a touchback,or a fg kicker who can,I'd love to have tupa come back,because i love the option of having a punter who's an x-qb,but he's to old to rely on not getting injured again
htownskinfan 01-16-2006, 11:45 PM Nedney had a great year for SF and the cost might be right!!!
I was just looking at the kicker stats and you are dead on,26-28 and he was tied for the longest fg this yr,56 yrds,he was 2-3 beyond the 50 and 10-10 in the 40-49 yrd range
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