Can Brunell lead this team to a super bowl?

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Hog1
01-16-2006, 05:41 PM
I disagree totaly,in Gibbs first tenure he was a master of adjustments many games we were down at the half and came out in the second half with a new game plan.

Totally correct, Washington was a superb come from behind team in Gibbs first term. just as you said, they looked like a different team in the second half and Gibbs is famous for his halftime "talks". They did a good job in that respect this season as well as they won several games they trailed in. Brunell will have to have some help in the "Weapons and protection" area's. Long pass routes take longer to set up. He'e spending to much time running! A couple more legit guys to throw to! See, nothin' to it!

LadyT
01-16-2006, 05:45 PM
Hate to feel this way, but my answers is an unequivocal "no". He just is too old to last out a season and still be productive enough to take us all the way. That was glaringly apparent this season. He will be one year older next season and isn't suddenly going to morph into a younger QB. The best I can say about him is that he is a fairly capable QB, but he doesn't have what it takes to win it all for us.

skindogger47
01-16-2006, 05:48 PM
I voted no, but actually if we get a first round bye I think he could do it. But for God's sake we can't play that type of offense again! We need to upgrade #2 WR and we're in business. Moss, ???, Patten, Thrash. Thaaaaaaaaaaat's what I'm talking about!

SUNRA
01-16-2006, 05:56 PM
Trent Dilfer has a Superbowl ring-nuff said!

Brad Johnson does too.

Hog1
01-16-2006, 06:08 PM
Hate to feel this way, but my answers is an unequivocal "no". He just is too old to last out a season and still be productive enough to take us all the way. That was glaringly apparent this season. He will be one year older next season and isn't suddenly going to morph into a younger QB. The best I can say about him is that he is a fairly capable QB, but he doesn't have what it takes to win it all for us.
This was your post in September of this year. Maybe Brunell is better than you think for this team.



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Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
If it's true I don't blame him one bit. I have just lost ALL respect for Gibbs.

Get ready for another dismal season, Skins fans. Does anyone out there really think that Brunell will take us to the playoffs? HAH!

What really ticks me off is that, last year, Gibbs gave Brunell every chance to improve - far more games than he deserved, before he finally yanked him. This year, he says Ramsey is the man and he gives him all of 1 game? What in the **** is going on here?

I'll never believe another thing that Gibbs says and, mark my words, neither will any of the other players. From comments I've read, many of them seem to prefer Ramsey.

redsk1
01-16-2006, 06:21 PM
No one is happier about the success this team has had this year w/ Brunell as Qb. However, I would have to say that i don't believe Brunell can lead us to and win the SB. One thing i noticed watching some of the other games this weekend was the Qb play. Lots of teams in the playoffs have great defenses, but its the teams with the qb's that make the special throws and plays that win the game. It became apparent to me watching Jake Delhomme, who is not the fastest guy in the world, drop back to pass. It seems like he takes his 5-6 step drop a hell of a lot faster than Brunell and is able to read the defense quicker b/c of it. Brunell seems to take a split second longer and therefore needs to be protected longer in order to make the great throw.

Brunell in his prime was one of the best qb's in the nfl, no question. But, he has slowed. Can he take us to the playoffs? I think he can next year, but i don't think in my opinion he can lead us further than that. I hope i am wrong, b/c i really would like to see it.

hurrykaine
01-16-2006, 06:38 PM
It became apparent to me watching Jake Delhomme, who is not the fastest guy in the world, drop back to pass. It seems like he takes his 5-6 step drop a hell of a lot faster than Brunell and is able to read the defense quicker b/c of it. Brunell seems to take a split second longer and therefore needs to be protected longer in order to make the great throw.


Great point about the comparison with Delhomme. Delhomme is by no means a great QB, but he is far above serviceable and almost a very good QB.

Look at the similarities between the skins and the panthers offense:
1. Both run to set up the pass
2. Both have one stellar receiver (Moss/Smith): Slight advantage to Carolina.
3. Both have a good running game (Foster/Portis) Advantage Skins.
4. Both have decent offensive lines

So why are the panthers able to score so easily in the playoffs while we $hit the bed? Sure Steve Smith is an incredible receiver, but the answer has got to be superior QB play by Delhomme.

ST21
01-16-2006, 06:59 PM
I'm be the Bad Guy and say NO, I like Mark Brunnel....but I want a gunslinger who's not afraid to throw the ball...Mark make good plays, but not great ones, Santana Moss makes great plays, so do Cooley, most of there big plays are off short yardage plays...I think its time to Start the Kid......Campbell came in the league on most cards as a top QB.....I like to see what he can do...

Pocket$ $traight
01-16-2006, 07:07 PM
If Campbell starts next season then throw out 2006. He would get abused in the East next year. The only way they could consider it is if they add a pro-bowl quality possesion guy who would bail him out. T.O. comes to mind but the negatives are too high (plus Moss would get pissed).

LadyT
01-16-2006, 07:25 PM
This was your post in September of this year. Maybe Brunell is better than you think for this team.



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Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
If it's true I don't blame him one bit. I have just lost ALL respect for Gibbs.

Get ready for another dismal season, Skins fans. Does anyone out there really think that Brunell will take us to the playoffs? HAH!

What really ticks me off is that, last year, Gibbs gave Brunell every chance to improve - far more games than he deserved, before he finally yanked him. This year, he says Ramsey is the man and he gives him all of 1 game? What in the **** is going on here?

I'll never believe another thing that Gibbs says and, mark my words, neither will any of the other players. From comments I've read, many of them seem to prefer Ramsey.

I'll admit I was wrong in predicting a dismal season. The team was a very, very pleasant surprise and Brunell played at a level much better than I anticipated. But, the question posed was - can he win us a Super Bowl? And my answer to that remains the same - no. It's apparent that he is capable enough to take us to the playoffs, but I don't think we will go any farther than the first round or possibly the next round, if he is still the QB. He was playing very well, even great at times, earlier in the season. This is where I was wrong about him. But, as the season progressed, he very obviously slowed down. During the last 3 or 4 games, he has been only a shadow of what he was like early in the season. Next year, he's even older and he just cannot take a full season and stilll maintain the top productivity that a team needs from its QB. The early season successful long passes have become a distant memory during these last few games. Other teams know his limitations and Seattle capitalized on it to beat us. Why do you think they so confidently stacked the line against the run? Because they knew Brunell could not beat them through the air.

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