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Pocket$ $traight
01-21-2006, 12:02 AM
This guy actually asked for Norv Turner back?

Why don't you just ask for Jimmy Johnson.

That makes me sick. There will never be another Cowboy on the coaching staff, period.

dag
01-21-2006, 12:11 AM
This guy actually asked for Norv Turner back?

Why don't you just ask for Jimmy Johnson.

That makes me sick. There will never be another Cowboy on the coaching staff, period.Who cares whether or not someone coached for the Cowboys?

Hell, I'd shine Jerry Jones' shoes myself if it meant the Redskins winning another Superbowl.

Pocket$ $traight
01-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Why don't you tell that to Doc Walker.

Obviously you aren't a real fan.

CooleyFan
01-22-2006, 06:36 PM
Did Clinton Portis have 1,500 yds this year? Oh I must have misread those numbers because having those sort of stats would be impossible in such an anachronistic offensive scheme. Also, the so-called West Coast offense is built upon short passes not a vertical passing game and as someone else pointed out Norv Turner does not run a West Coast scheme (was there a more inept offense with more talent than the Raiders this year, by the way). Why don't you go pick up Football for Dummies before you make more foolish posts. Oh, and Musgrave was a quarterbacks coach he wasn't up in the booth calling plays, if you really really need someone to kick after a loss (clearly you are a fairweather type) then I'm not sure Bill should be the #1 target.


See dummy? We DID GO GET AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. LOOK WHO FEELS DUMB NOW DUMMY. Keep talkin shit. Fairweather I am not. I've been a diehard fan since I was old enough to know what a football was. Thanks.

CooleyFan
01-22-2006, 06:49 PM
while i don't put all our offensive problems on joe gibbs, i must say he still needs to open it up a bit more. he opened it up this year compared to last but not quite enough. having another dependable wr could help out big time though. i guess he couldn't do but so much having only portis, cooley and moss.


We did open it up more, but you do gotta understand halfway through the season, teams were studying Santana Moss in the videorooms, and had all the plays and everything called. It was very hard to get single man-man defense on Santana, so it was hard for him to get open. They all shut him down pretty good after that Dallas game. Hard to open it up when you have two safeties and a CB on Santana Moss, suffocating him. Cooley isn't that fast, but he has JUST enough to get into the secondary, past the linebackers. Weapons are precious. Once a team nabs your style, you gotta do other things just to get it done.

wolfeskins
01-22-2006, 10:47 PM
We did open it up more, but you do gotta understand halfway through the season, teams were studying Santana Moss in the videorooms, and had all the plays and everything called. It was very hard to get single man-man defense on Santana, so it was hard for him to get open. They all shut him down pretty good after that Dallas game. Hard to open it up when you have two safeties and a CB on Santana Moss, suffocating him. Cooley isn't that fast, but he has JUST enough to get into the secondary, past the linebackers. Weapons are precious. Once a team nabs your style, you gotta do other things just to get it done.



yea, i agree with you. read what i said in post #24, it sums up my feelings better than my other quote that you used.

CooleyFan
01-23-2006, 01:02 AM
Let's just not forget what I said... 2 weeks before it happened. GIBBS NEEDS AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENED? Who started this thread? Whats the title of this thread? When's the date of the first post? I'm the foolish fairweather fan, right? Gibbs de-throned himself, and gave up the offense just to bring this franchise back to glory. If I'm fairweather, so is Gibbs. Thanks. I'll be here all week.

MTK
01-23-2006, 10:34 AM
Let's just not forget what I said... 2 weeks before it happened. GIBBS NEEDS AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENED? Who started this thread? Whats the title of this thread? When's the date of the first post? I'm the foolish fairweather fan, right? Gibbs de-throned himself, and gave up the offense just to bring this franchise back to glory. If I'm fairweather, so is Gibbs. Thanks. I'll be here all week.

Thing is your original post was a little off base.

We weren't running a west coast offense this year, Norv Turner isn't a west coast guy, and neither is Saunders. Other than that you're right on. ;)

And I don't think Gibbs' age has anything to do with it, Saunders basically comes from the same school of thought that Gibbs does. Gibbs' offensive philosophies and schemes are alive and well across the league with several different teams. His brand of football works. By bringing in Saunders I think Gibbs is just looking for that extra edge to get this team over the hump, when you have the opportunity to go out and get one of the best offensive minds in football you'd have to be crazy or an egomaniac not to.

Beemnseven
01-23-2006, 01:55 PM
Looks like Joe Gibbs agreed with CooleyFan.

Schneed10
01-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Looks like Joe Gibbs agreed with CooleyFan.

Luckily Joe Gibbs is a lot more likeable than CooleyFan.

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