Gibbs needs help

No one is taking anything away from Gibbs, he got us here, but still he needs help. Either he needs some coordinators for the offense, or he needs to make changes on his own. He added the shotgun last year, and opened up the offense, and that got us this far. Hopefully we can work in the free agency, and get better offensive players. Our offense was good this year, but it was VERY flakey, and inconsistent for various reasons. But we can agree, at times we were all upset with the playcalling, and conservative style of offense. Its not Gibbs fault obviously, but even he said, it comes back to him, because he is the head coach. So as a good NFL coach Gibbs, should adapt and change even more, and getting help offensively is an option for him to do that.

Isn't Mike Martz's offense a Hybrid of the original Gibbs offense?

Are any of you watching the CAR vs CHI game? The OC for CAR is Dan Henning, a Gibbes clone. They are running the same plays that we run, counter tray included. The difference is a very capable QB who can put some zip on it, a very good healthy OL, and capable #2 receiver (Ricky P.). "In three years, Dan Henning has transformed the Panthers offense from last in the National Football League to one of the NFL's more efficient attacks."
I think we need another year and some good off season acquisitions. No block buster deals just good quality players.

Now, let me just start this out by saying....


Joe Gibbs has given me a reason to believe in my Redskins once again. Gibby needs help. Musgrave sucks. West Coast? No. The NFL isn't going to be slow enough for the counter tray, or these line pulls anymore. It's a dying breed of offense, and there is no place in football for it anymore. We need to go out in the off season and get an offensive mind to help poor Joe. I love Joe, but I need to say what everyone else is scared to say. He's too old.

I think if we got a good West Coast guy... like (i hate to say it) but ol' Norval Turner, maybe we can establish more of a deep impact. I friggin hate Norv, but he is an offensive mind. Have you guys seen the forlorn looks on ol' Joe's face everytime the offense falters? He can't understand the fast pace game. I know I'm gonna get hate mail, but it needs to be addressed. I know Joe is a genius, and I hope he proves me wrong, but he will NOT take us to a SuperBowl. I hope he proves me wrong.

This is a team with only one WR!!! The rest suck!!! Get two more good ones and this will make us very good!!!

while i don't put all our offensive problems on joe gibbs, i must say he still needs to open it up a bit more. he opened it up this year compared to last but not quite enough. having another dependable wr could help out big time though. i guess he couldn't do but so much having only portis, cooley and moss.

while i don't put all our offensive problems on joe gibbs, i must say he still needs to open it up a bit more. he opened it up this year compared to last but not quite enough. having another dependable wr could help out big time though. i guess he couldn't do but so much having only portis, cooley and moss.

Look. There is something you and alot of other fans have to realize. This offense is a BALL CONTROLLED offense. It lives and dies by the run. The running game is what opens this offense up. It's not going to change! The running game is what brought us this far. When the running game is hitting on all cylinders, it opens the passing game. It has ALWAYS been that way. If the running game is stuffed, how do you expect to open things up with only one deep threat? It's not going to happen! If you have more than one true deep threat at WR, then it's possible...but not with ONLY Moss running down the field. Gibbs doesn't have to do anything with the philosophy of the offense. The philosophy isn't broken, outdated, or unintelligent. It has already been proven it works - in fact, it is Gibbs relying heavily on the run and the short ball controlled passes that gave us that 6 game winning streak. Honestly, anyone on this board who is thinking seriously about calling themselves realists and believes they know more about winning in the playoffs and coaching than Joe Gibbs....you need to seriously have your head examined! Gibbs knows exactly what works and what doesn't.

All Gibbs needs is another deep threat receiver. He knows that...that is what they hoped Patten would be. Unfortunately, Patten didn't prove to be a threat when he was playing, and then was injured. Gibbs knows one more weapon will make a difference. In my opinion, that is ALL this offense needs.

BTW Wolfskins, I wasn't directing this post toward you or picking on you...but it's just a general statement to all Redskins fans.

This thread is f-ing rediculous...Gibbs took a floundering franchise and revitalized it and got them into the final 8. He doesn't need any help at all unless he says he does...he may need a couple talent upgrades in a couple spots, but to say his coaching is somehow flawed is f-ing rediculous.

Gibbs is the man. We need a few more weapons on offense and upgrade the lines. Then we are set. Tough schedule coming up again next year. Need to build with the draft, if possible.

I've said this before. I wouldn't presume to pretend that I know half as much as Joe Gibbs has forgotten about game planning!!!

Norv Turner? Are you kidding? The guy who gave us Michael Westbrook, Heath Schuler and Desmond Howard? You want to go back to that?

I like the direction Gibbs is taking the team. I like the progress they are making. This is the NFC East. We play east coast ball here. To win this division you play with power - that's snot-knocking defense and ball control.

the counter trey does worked, and we've got one of the fastest guards in the nfl to run it with, we've gotten 20 yard runs and TDs with it, so i don't think that's something you can nitpick. The super conservative playcalling mode gibbs goes into at times is troublesome and i don't like how content he is to sit on 3 and 7 point leads with 40+ minutes left to play (ugh), but it got us to 10-6 (with GW and blanche on defense of course)...