Will Arrington take a pay cut? (MERGED)

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Luxorreb
01-15-2006, 06:59 AM
Senorice Moss? What is his name? Is he in the draft? Any vid of him?

Schneed10
01-15-2006, 08:41 AM
I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team.

I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs?

Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less.

Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.

FRPLG
01-15-2006, 09:45 AM
I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team.

I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs?

Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less.

Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.
Sounds about right. I love Lavar but I think maybe he moves on if monetarily possible.

dmek25
01-15-2006, 09:53 AM
I Think Lavar Sits Down With Coach Gibbs In The Off Season And Takes A Pay Cut To Remain A Redskin.sounds Simple Enough

dmek25
01-15-2006, 09:54 AM
sorry about the capital lettering

skins052bgr8
01-15-2006, 10:18 AM
With so many coaching changes and front office changes in the NFL there should be some young coaches or just new coaches looking to clean house and build there teams in free agency. I would think there would be quite a bit of interest in Lavar and Ramsey if that is what our team decides they want to give up. I wish Lavar would take a pay cut and stay, but I agree with some others that is not going to happen especially with the Poston's as his agents who put the blame on the skins for their errors. They will either not agree to negotiate at all or make it nearly impossible even if talks open. Maybe Lavar pulls a Javon Walker and says adios to the Poston's like Walker did Rosenhaus.

SUNRA
01-15-2006, 11:34 AM
I think Lavar's agent shops him around and finds that no one is willing to pay for him at this point in his career. A friend of mine said Pittsburgh would love to have him if the price is right since he is from Pittsburgh.

That Guy
01-16-2006, 03:57 AM
lavar wont take a massive pay cut to stay, so he's gone either this year or possibly next... he says he wants to be here, but obviously not enough to give back money.

In two years he's made a ton of money and done squat. he's still not healed and doesn't have his speed back yet (assuming he can even get back to full speed). Gibbs passed on R moss within 6 hours of the vikings seeking trades, so there's no way we even try that. I'd trade him straight up for another LB (MLB or OLB since marshall plays both) or WR or draft picks at this point.

If he can heal fully i'd love to keep him cause he can still play, but even at 90% health he's overpaid, so if he can't recover he NEEDS to go. The vast amount of money in his contract probably sends him packing either way though.

Luxorreb
01-16-2006, 05:30 AM
Please Lavar take a pay cut!!!

I want your underachieving ass to STAY!!!

Please stay!!!

htownskinfan
01-16-2006, 08:48 AM
I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team.

I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs?

Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less.

Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.

I agree with everything you said except the first line,I like lavar,but he's just not performing like he should for the money,yes,he had a good game last week,but sat was obviously the biggest game of his carrer and he has 2 tackles? 2 tackles in the biggest game of your career is not a good statement

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