what about this deal

I noticed we drafted 2 tackles and cleveland did not get the franchise left tackles they needed.Is it possible that we would trade Samuels for Courtney Brown.

Maybe only because of Clevleands want for a Tackle. I doubt were gonna trade Samuels though. For the most part, I think whoever is on the roster now, is who we can plan on going to play with.

CrazyCanuck
IF Samules is traded, do we suffer a cap hit? I would think so because of his large signing bonus. How much does he cost us if we get rid of him? How much does he cost if we cut him?

Courtney Brown would scare me...he is ALWAYS hurt.

I dont think we should get Courtney Brown, and I beleive Samuels would count around 6 million this year or something liek that..If hes cut before June 1st.

Defensewins, we suffer a hit this coming season, however this is the only season we would worry about it. So next season when he has like a 14 mill hit or whatever, its gone, hes not " Dead Money "

No brown, and if we did trade samuel's for a D-lineman, I would rather see if we could work out a trade for T. Harris, I don't know how sold I am on W. Smith. Besides how much stock can you put into 2 late rd. draft pick's at tackle, now if whiney has developed a little more, and the coaches think he's ready to handle the left tackle position, then we should explore it, but they have to make an evaluation on samuels first, do they think he's to slow footed to handle a speed rusher? Which to me seem's to be his problem, he can't slide to the outside and block the speed rusher's, then maybe we see what we can get.

CrazyCanuck
IF Samules is traded, do we suffer a cap hit? I would think so because of his large signing bonus. How much does he cost us if we get rid of him? How much does he cost if we cut him?


I read somewhere( I think it was espn.com) that if we traded Sameuls before the June 1st cutoff, we would take a hit of just over 2 mil. which beats the 8 figure hit we may take next year. However some numbers of the cap hit are lot higher. That is unless he redo he contact. However he has so far said he would not and in part I dont blame him, he's reworked his contract twice so far. I think that if we were going to move him it would have been done by now but who knows.

brown has been a big bust so i wouldn't want to give up one of the top 5 tackles in the league for an expensive slightly above average player with injury problems. maybe if they included winslow.....

CrazyCanuck
IF Samules is traded, do we suffer a cap hit? I would think so because of his large signing bonus. How much does he cost us if we get rid of him? How much does he cost if we cut him?

I don't have my numbers in front of me but I think it's as follows:

Samuels cut/traded before June 1st:
2004 cap hit = $8.7M
2005 cap hit = $0

Samuels cut/traded after June 1st:
2004 cap hit = $2.9M
2005 cap hit = $5.8M