LongTimeSkinsFan
01-09-2006, 07:34 AM
It's easy to assess the situation as we need a kickoff specialist. The only problem with that is what position player do we cut to make room for a guy that only comes out after we score and either the beginning of the game or 2nd half? Also bear in mind the way the injury bug has bit us, any position player we drop for a kickoff man makes us one less deep at a position that could be very thin at any given time during the season. It doesn't make sense to carry an extra kicker on the roster unless you have to carry him (under a long term contract like Hall was while he was hurt this year).
dmek25
01-09-2006, 08:44 AM
hall has really improved over the last 2 weeks,even the kickoffs are getting longer.facts are, he is our kicker for at least the rest of this season
cpayne5
01-09-2006, 09:14 AM
I am glad we have John Hall. He is a good kicker. Does anybody remember our kicking woes of the late 90s/ early 00s? We would have killed for a kicker like John Hall at the time. We need to hold onto him, IMO. Kickers are not easy to come by.
Schneed10
01-09-2006, 09:33 AM
I don't think anyone should be complaining about John Hall on kickoffs right now. Danny Smith often tells the kicker to kick it high and shorter so that the coverage team can get down on top of the returner in a hurry. We started the Tampa game doing this and it backfired, as they returned the ball to the Tampa 40 a couple times. After that you saw Hall kicking it down around the goalline, that's because the coaches switched it up and told him to go deep with it.
Hall is perfectly healthy and his leg is as strong as ever, as evidenced by the 47-yarder.
onlydarksets
01-09-2006, 09:50 AM
I loved hearing the ESPN crew talk about Hall's leg only being good to 45 yards or so, and then have him nail that 47 yarder with probably 5-7 yards to spare. The next kickoff was his longest, too (dropped it around the 2). Nonetheless, he needs to get seriously healthy before next year.
skinsttw
01-09-2006, 09:53 AM
John Hall is a solid kicker when healthy. We need him to be at his best in the playoffs. At least one of the next three games will come down to a field goal.
backrow
01-09-2006, 10:38 AM
It just looks to me that everytime Hall kicks off, it is the most painful expereince he has ever gone through.
I noticed it weeks ago at pre-game warm-ups during the Raiders Game, at our end of the field!
Hope he survives all of his duties and assignments.
Southpaw
01-09-2006, 10:57 AM
John Halls leg is either not completely healed, or atrophied as it healed, and is much weaker than it was two years ago. His accuracy has never been a problem. He's still one of the more accurate kickers in the league, but obviously, his range isn't where it used to be.
The problem with getting a kickoff specialist is it takes another roster spot, which I'm pretty sure Gibbs won't even consider, so unless they can find a punter that can also kickoff, that won't happen. I don't think cutting him is the answer either. If you've paid attention to the kicking game around the league, it has been an off year for kickers in general. Just look at how many teams have hired Jose Cortez, in this season alone. Having an accurate kicker is a definite plus to have, especially in the playoffs. They'll just have to find a way to compensate for his short kickoffs.
firstdown
01-09-2006, 11:19 AM
I loved hearing the ESPN crew talk about Hall's leg only being good to 45 yards or so, and then have him nail that 47 yarder with probably 5-7 yards to spare. The next kickoff was his longest, too (dropped it around the 2). Nonetheless, he needs to get seriously healthy before next year.You have to give the announcers a little break here. They said in warm ups he was not making any kicks over 45 yards and thats why they did not think he could make anything over 45yards.
onlydarksets
01-09-2006, 11:38 AM
You have to give the announcers a little break here. They said in warm ups he was not making any kicks over 45 yards and thats why they did not think he could make anything over 45yards.
You misunderstand my point - I ddin't think it was a gimme, either. It was awesome to see him just demolish that kick when, prior to it, it wasn't clear that he had it in him. He crushed (relatively speaking, of course) that kickoff immediately following the field goal, too.