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hooskins 01-08-2006, 08:46 PM Hello... anyone home...
Did anyone actually see the game here???
Come on, Pittman smacked him while the ref pulled them apart. It was at the end. If he did spit after, he would have hit the ref.
Did you see pittmans reaction. Something happened to make him do what he did. Hell, he should have beat the piss out of him. Lucky all he got was a little slap.
HAHA Pittman "beat the piss out of Taylor"??? Even you can agree that would never happen.
hooskins 01-08-2006, 08:51 PM Well what do you know, there is a sane one in the bunch!
Dude are you reading the entire thread?!? Most of the people in here think that what Taylor did was wrong, and that he should have gotten ejected. And it is a fact that you cannot see spit on the replay. That doesn't mean we are defending him or supporting what he is doing, you are just a sad Cowboys fan, who decided to start making posts at this forum after you saw that play. Yea you joined in Dec, but you did not make any other posts for a while, until the incident. Some of us think Pittman should have recieved a flag too be he did hit Taylor, that is a FACT. I do not think so, but the arguement is that if you support Pittman, then it is ok to retaliate no matter what, and it is NOT.
SmootSmack 01-08-2006, 09:24 PM This is about the only point in the argument that we can all agree on. All the rest of the bitching and moaning about how Taylor is a punk or whether he did or didn't do it is completely irrelevant. He put the team in a position that could have cost us the game and that's the part that is reprehensible.
Let me ask those of you who seem hell-bent on hanging him out to dry because he's such a bad person this:
If Taylor spit in someone else's face during a game, and nobody saw it, and the national press hadn't picked up on it, and we ended up winning that game because of a play he made later in the game, are you telling me your integrity demands that he be ejected and punished just the same, even if it means we lose the game and ergo don't go to the playoffs?
Are you really so appalled by the "dishonor" of the alleged act, or is it really that you're embarrassed? I'm guessing the latter.
A lot of you guys seem to be holier-than-thou with respect to Lavar and Taylor, to the point where you talk like you're prepared to endure another losing season if that's what it takes to get these "losers" and "punks" off the team. Well, I wonder if you realize how many games we won BECAUSE of those guys, and that we'd be playing golf with the Eagles right now without them.
Nice post. I would venture to say that Sean Taylor has been as reliable on and off the field this season as anyone could ask for. Yes, he needs to control his aggression. But he hasn't been a cheap shot artist. And there have been no reports of him showing up late to practice, or getting pulled over by the police, etc. We still have to see what happens with his trial but...innocent until proven guilty
celts32 01-08-2006, 10:11 PM This is rediculous...ST's actions are indefensable. Anyone defending him should stop and consider how they would view this incident if ST played for the Cowboys...
dgack 01-08-2006, 10:18 PM This is rediculous...ST's actions are indefensable. Anyone defending him should stop and consider how they would view this incident if ST played for the Cowboys...
What difference does it make? It's not like he speared a QB or kneecapped someone on purpose. He insulted a guy and according to the ref, spit on him.
If a Cowboys player who was really, really good did that I'd say, "wow, that guy is a dick, and I bet a lot of guys are going to be looking to give him what's coming to him" and that's the end of it.
And secondly, let me ask another question. How many times have you seen a game where the ref misses the guy starting a fight, and catches the guy who retaliated? The retaliator ALWAYS gets tossed.
Ultimately, I dont care if Taylor did it, because without him, we arent in the playoffs. And I don't even know for sure that he did it.
A lot of you guys just seem to like hating on your own team. And that makes me sad.
LongTimeSkinsFan 01-08-2006, 10:46 PM I don't think anyone here is defending Taylor's actions as acceptable. Taylor was flagged for UC and ejected. End discussion. Should he be suspended for another game? That will be for league officials to decide, not us. If so, the Redskins will have to go to Seattle and GW will have to run the defense w/o him- just like he ran the defense w/o Springs Saturday and w/o Walt Harris earlier in the season, and more recently w/o Carlos Rodgers. Taylor or not, we'll have a solid defense courtesy of GW come Saturday.
For those of you who wish to crucify Taylor as a street punk, thug, etc. bear in mind that sportsmanship has been an "optional" part of this game since it's history. Players have done some of the most rude and unsportsmanlike things to each other in order to get a competitive edge or punish the opponent (that is, until new rules were enforced to stop that behavior). For examples see Joe "Turkey" Jones, Conrad Dobler, Andy Lambert, Mike Curtis, Jack Tatum, Bill Romanowski, Steve Wisniewski, Rodney Harrison, Johnny Sample, and let's not forget our favorite Cowboy, Roy Williams, who made a living off 'horse-collaring' ball carriers. While I'm not condoning Taylor's actions I am saying that due to the nature of the sport, don't expect these guys to throw a teaparty at midfield after the coinflip. Football is by nature an agressive, violent, and physical sport. There's a lot that goes on between the end zones during a game- Taylor was the one that got caught.
The only thing that upsets me about the incident is the fact that dual UC penalties were not assessed, which I felt would have been appropriate under the circumstances. This is the second time that an opponent has taken a swing at a Redskin player without any punishment being dealt. The final game of the season an Eagle lineman took a swing at Joe Salave'a and no flag was thrown there either.
dgack 01-08-2006, 10:48 PM Great post Longtime. Sums up a couple of different points I was trying to make in different posts perfectly.
SmootSmack 01-08-2006, 10:52 PM http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/01/25/pile0131/
"IKE REESE, Eagles Linebacker
"When we played the Patriots last year [Eagles running back] Brian Westbrook fumbled a punt, and we were all down there scrambling for it. [Patriots linebacker] Mike Vrabel had my testicles in his hand, and he was squeezing them. Where the football ends up depends on who has the strongest will or the strongest hands. Guys reach inside the face mask to gouge your eyes. But the biggest thing is the grabbing of the testicles. It is crazy."
I guess next time Sean Taylor should just grab Pittman by the balls
skinsfanthru&thru 01-08-2006, 10:54 PM great post but they did throw a flag against Runyan but it warranted him being ejected too which of course didn't happen. I still can't believe this warrants an ejection but earlier this year when nfl poster boy Ronde Barber took a swing at an opponent and instead hit a ref with a strong cross on the chin and he only got an UC penalty.
skinsfanthru&thru 01-08-2006, 10:57 PM http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/01/25/pile0131/
"IKE REESE, Eagles Linebacker
"When we played the Patriots last year [Eagles running back] Brian Westbrook fumbled a punt, and we were all down there scrambling for it. [Patriots linebacker] Mike Vrabel had my testicles in his hand, and he was squeezing them. Where the football ends up depends on who has the strongest will or the strongest hands. Guys reach inside the face mask to gouge your eyes. But the biggest thing is the grabbing of the testicles. It is crazy."
I guess next time Sean Taylor should just grab Pittman by the balls
come on we all know getting spit in the face is much more disrespectful than someone grabbing and ripping on your balls cuz that's all part of the game ;)
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