The Spitting Ejection

like i said in the other thread
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i honestly didn't see anything. I do however think it is was possible that while yelling a little bit of spit flew out his mouth. I just didin't see anything. You got to be a stone cold mother ****er to spit on someone and not even move. His head didn't jerk forward. Spit on something go ahead in anger. your head has to move. it has to. But Sean is one stonned cold mother ****erhe didn't spit ! !:vomit:

I think it's funny that Cowboy fans are coming here and ragging on Redskin players for their character. That's absurd.

In the heat of a football game, I just don't understand why spitting is an ejectable offense. Does spitting in a guy's face hamper his ability to play the game? No, and yet players are ejected for it. Meanwhile, a guy takes a swing at someone, trying to come up under the facemask to connect with throat and chin, and he's not ejected for it. Doesn't make any sense at all. If the punch connects, it could hurt the other player, preventing him from playing effectively. If spit connects, you wipe it off.

It just doesn't make sense. The punishment needs to fit the crime. It's unsportsmanlike conduct, no doubt. Sean Taylor is a punk, no doubt. But ejecting him is not a fitting punishment when so many other guys are allowed to take swings at each other and get away with a 15-yard penalty.

In my opinion, what Runyan did last week to Salave'a is way worse than what Taylor did to Pittman.

When the flag was tossed and the ejection announced, you did not see the ten other Redskins on the field at the time going ballistic over a wrong call.

When Taylor went to the sidelines, you did not see Gregg Williams or Joe Gibbs about to burst a blood vessel in the brain as they screeched at the officials.

The incident happened about 20 hours ago and you have not heard Gibbs or Williams - - or even Danny Boy - - stand up behind a microphone and say that the call and the penalty and the ejection were horrendous and that this is an example of poor officiating and that Sean Taylor is being picked on by the refs.

IF HE DIDN'T SPIT, you would have heard/seen all of those things...

Someone asked if there was a rule against spitting. I do not have a current NFL Rule Book here, but from memory I believe that ejection MAY happen for ANY unsportsmanlilke conduct call. And that decision is at the referee's discretion.

The word for the day is:

M E A T H E A D

My last comment on this. I cant believe some of you are actually taking the refs side...lol knowing all of us seen the replay and seen no spit whatsoever..nough said!!!
The ref was THERE!!! He wouldn't just make it up. He has bosses to answer to and Carey is one of the best. He would not have called the penalty if it did not happen. I can't believe some of us are swearing that because we could not see it on our high def TV's that it did not happen. Wrong is wrong and Sean was WRONG!!!

I think it's funny that Cowboy fans are coming here and ragging on Redskin players for their character. That's absurd.

In the heat of a football game, I just don't understand why spitting is an ejectable offense. Does spitting in a guy's face hamper his ability to play the game? No, and yet players are ejected for it. Meanwhile, a guy takes a swing at someone, trying to come up under the facemask to connect with throat and chin, and he's not ejected for it. Doesn't make any sense at all. If the punch connects, it could hurt the other player, preventing him from playing effectively. If spit connects, you wipe it off.

It just doesn't make sense. The punishment needs to fit the crime. It's unsportsmanlike conduct, no doubt. Sean Taylor is a punk, no doubt. But ejecting him is not a fitting punishment when so many other guys are allowed to take swings at each other and get away with a 15-yard penalty.

In my opinion, what Runyan did last week to Salave'a is way worse than what Taylor did to Pittman.

I agree on the Runyon call. He should have been ejected. It still does not make what Sean diod right. Wether in the heat of battle or not spitting anyones face anytime is wrong.

this isn't the first time taylor has done this, last year he spit in the face of Houshmanzada(sp?)

this isn't the first time taylor has done this, last year he spit in the face of Houshmanzada(sp?)

From NFL.com about allegations of spitting last year:
" Taylor was investigated last season for spitting at Cincinnati receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh. The NFL carefully reviewed tapes to determine whether Taylor should be fined, but they found no video evidence to support the allegation."

When the flag was tossed and the ejection announced, you did not see the ten other Redskins on the field at the time going ballistic over a wrong call.

When Taylor went to the sidelines, you did not see Gregg Williams or Joe Gibbs about to burst a blood vessel in the brain as they screeched at the officials.

The incident happened about 20 hours ago and you have not heard Gibbs or Williams - - or even Danny Boy - - stand up behind a microphone and say that the call and the penalty and the ejection were horrendous and that this is an example of poor officiating and that Sean Taylor is being picked on by the refs.

IF HE DIDN'T SPIT, you would have heard/seen all of those things...

Someone asked if there was a rule against spitting. I do not have a current NFL Rule Book here, but from memory I believe that ejection MAY happen for ANY unsportsmanlilke conduct call. And that decision is at the referee's discretion.

The word for the day is:

M E A T H E A D

I thought Gregg Williams did come to his defense last night

"He said they got into a verbal match, going back and forth," Williams said. "He said he did not spit on him. That's what he told me and I believe him. I will tell you this: I love the kid. The kid has a great heart behind the scenes and he's a tremendous competitor. There is no other free safety in the National Football League that I'd rather coach than him."
redskins.com

That to me sounds like they are saying they don't need the penalty and ejection, which is absolutely correct and they have a right to be irritated about it.

There is something to be said for a player with a rep for getting into situations like this being baited by other players and/or not getting the benefit of the doubt from the refs. I'm not saying it happened here, but we've seen it in the NFL and even the NBA, where certain players whose checkered past follows them every where they go, get called for things they may not have actually done.

Taylor is probably approaching that status, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see more players come after him and try to take advantage of the situation. What the team captains need to do is get him back to the huddle as soon as a play is blown dead and keep him away from any potentially bad situations, if that's what it takes.

yeah, it sounded more like Daniels was talking about getting a flag thrown against Taylor. I'm personally shocked by the amount of people taking the word of a referee who have a knack for getting calls incorrect over actual VISUAL EVIDENCE. Unless Taylor has the ability to spit at the speed of light there has been zero video evidence to warrant the penalty and ejection on the part of Taylor, but THERE IS plenty of evidence to warrant Pittman being penalized and ejected. And once again the replays they've shown seem to show the ref looking at the ground while trying to break the 2 players up when the alleged spit took place so the only way I can think of that the ref would have known about the spit was to hear it. And people keep bringing up last year's incident with TJH, but the league could not find any type of evidence to support TJH's claim. I'm more mad at Taylor for stupidly starting to talk trash with a player who was walking away from him. If they can actually find evidence to prove Taylor did this than he deserves any punishment the league and the team want to give him, but until then I'll take what I have seen with my 2 eyes and the quick defense of Taylor by Gregg Williams.