Reggie Bush vs Lindell White

That was one of the best college games I ever saw, Young is unreal, it's like the guy has a forcefield around him, no one can catch, or tackle him, what a game!

Bush and Lindell White are good players, but the stud in the college football right now at the skill offense positions is Vince Young. If anyone has not seen him play before today, make sure you watch him tonight. The guy is the next Micheal Vick, but much bigger and possibly more athletic. At 6' 5" and 230 lbs he is much bigger than Vick and nearly as fast.

Young's run-pass ability has him within shouting distance of becoming the first player to throw for 2,500 yards and run for 1,000 in the same season. Already, he is 28-2 as a starter, tied with both Bobby Layne for the most wins in school history and Nebraska's Turner Gill for seventh-best winning percentage (.933).

The guy is originally from here (Houston), so I have followed his career closely since I moved here two years ago. IMO the guy is the best college player period.

Any Questions?
Bush should return the Heisman. The wrong guy got it.
Vince Young will be the #1 pick if he decides to come out.
Even Lindell White will get drafted before Bush.
The Heisman voting system needs to be changed. What do a bunch of pencil necked geek press guys know about Football? Most of those guys have never even played the game. The coaches should vote instead of press. Plus the award should be given after the championship game.

Well, I said over and over before the game that Reggie will be the main focus of Texas' D... as such, he tried to do way to much (especially with the stupid lateral in the first quarter). Vince Young made a believer out of me tonight and i congratulate the Horns on a well deserved W.

but Houston should still draft Reggie. He's going to blow you out of this world in the L.

Any Questions?
Bush should return the Heisman. The wrong guy got it.
Vince Young will be the #1 pick if he decides to come out.
Even Lindell White will get drafted before Bush.
The Heisman voting system needs to be changed. What do a bunch of pencil necked geek press guys know about Football? Most of those guys have never even played the game. The coaches should vote instead of press. Plus the award should be given after the championship game.

White's not going before Bush and I highly doubt that Young would either. First of all, Bush had 19 touches for 177 yards and a TD. That TD was electric. He didn't have a great game by his standards, but he still averaged over 6 yards per carry. The issue was that he didn't get the ball enough.

I won't argue that Vince Young had an amazing game, but USC's D isn't nearly as good as Texas's.

Also, you have to look at who has the pick. The Texans would pick Bush because they like Carr and they don't need 2 power runners. I would, however, think that Young should go ahead of Lienart.

I'm not necessarily directing this you at you Defensewins, but I don't like when people just wait for someone to fail. Reggie Bush made one bad play that game and you won't convince that that cost them the game because all USC had to do was tackle. Or Lienart could have made a play on the last play of the game. Or he could have not throw that pick in the end zone. USC made too many stupid mistakes to win that game. One of them was also not getting the football in Reggie Bush's hands.

USC didn't lose because of Reggie Bush.

I do, however, agree that the Hiesman committee should wait to vote until after the bowl games. I'm pretty sure that if they had Young would have gotten it. However, if coaches voted before the bowl games, I'd have to say that it would have still gone to Bush.

Bush and Lindell White are good players, but the stud in the college football right now at the skill offense positions is Vince Young. If anyone has not seen him play before today, make sure you watch him tonight. The guy is the next Micheal Vick, but much bigger and possibly more athletic. At 6' 5" and 230 lbs he is much bigger than Vick and nearly as fast.

Young's run-pass ability has him within shouting distance of becoming the first player to throw for 2,500 yards and run for 1,000 in the same season. Already, he is 28-2 as a starter, tied with both Bobby Layne for the most wins in school history and Nebraska's Turner Gill for seventh-best winning percentage (.933).

The guy is originally from here (Houston), so I have followed his career closely since I moved here two years ago. IMO the guy is the best college player period.

Dude, you are so on the money. Vince Young dominated USC. He breaks tackles like a FB, has the speed of a tailback, and is a pretty damn accurate passer. When he got the ball back with two minutes, you just know USC was in big trouble. If I was Casserly in Houston, I would trade David Carr and pick Young #1 over Reggie Bush after what I saw this evening.

..I'm not necessarily directing this you at you Defensewins, but I don't like when people just wait for someone to fail. Reggie Bush made one bad play that game and you won't convince that that cost them the game because all USC had to do was tackle. Or Lienart could have made a play on the last play of the game. Or he could have not throw that pick in the end zone. USC made too many stupid mistakes to win that game. One of them was also not getting the football in Reggie Bush's hands.

USC didn't lose because of Reggie Bush.
I know you are not directing it at me, but nobody is saying R. Bush failed. He had a great game. R. Bush is one of 2 or 3 top players in the entire country.
I am not saying he is not great. The guy IS the next Barry Sanders. However he is also running behind one of the best O-lines in the nation and playing with Heisman winning QB, plus another 1st round RB helping him. He is not carring most of the offensive load like V. Young is.

Plus did you see the Texas vs. Ohio State game earlier this year? Besides tonights game, the second played best game this year. Very physical game! Vince Young removed Ohio State from National title hopes in the Horse Shoe. I am not sure if you ever seen a game at Ohio U but it is one of the toughest places to win. I knew from that day V. Young is the best period.
The guy by himself is a difference maker.

I know you are not directing it at me, but nobody is saying R. Bush failed. He had a great game. R. Bush is one of 2 or 3 top players in the entire country.
I am not saying he is not great. The guy IS the next Barry Sanders. However he is also running behind one of the best O-lines in the nation and playing with Heisman winning QB. He is not carring the offensive load like Young is.
Plus did you see the texas vs. Ohio State game earlier this year? Vince Young remove Ohio State from National title hopes in the Horse Shoe. I am not sure if you ever seen a game at Ohio U but it is one of the toughest places to win. I knew from that day V. Young is the best period.

I'm not gonna argue that Vince Young isn't a great football player. I love watching him. He got me hooked against OK State. That pump fake and then turn on the after burners down the sidelines made me believe he was great. I don't doubt that he can play, all I'm saying is that I'm tired of the people who try to take everything away from Reggie Bush just because he's on one the most talented teams in the history of college football.

I also won't argue that USC has a great O Line, that said, I also don't think that he's necessarily overrated. He passes what Tom Jackson calls the "eye test." Every time I watch him play he amazes me at some point in the game. ND wins that game if Reggie Bush isn't on the team. Fresno State does too. And he was sick against Cal. I think he'll make a great pro just like Vince Young, who btw, should turn pro now.

I'm just sick of everybody saying that his o line is great so he's not that good. It's not true. I saw some stat tonight that showed how many 20+ yard plays he has this season and while I don't remember the number I know that it wowed me when I saw it. I think it worked out to like 5 a game or something. He's excellent in the open field, that's got nothing to do with the O Line.

I do however have real expectations for Reggie Bush. That's why I think the Texans are the perfect fit. I think he comes to Houston and splits time with Domanick Davis. It would help keep them both healthy which is good cause Davis has issues with that and who knows if Reggie can take the NFL grind, right? Now, I think if he comes into that situation David Carr immediately gets better because teams really have to respect the run now. They always have a fresh back who is more than serviceable. And I think Andre Johnson helps keep defenses honest. I think that he's can't miss if you don't ask him to carry the load. And I'll go out on a limb and say that if he gets 15 carries a game he could go for close to 1300 yards.

Yeah, I strongly agree with you, R. Bush is not overated.
We just agree to disagree on who is the better player. They are both awesome though.
I just read on ESpn:
"He (Young) ran for 200 yards and passed for another 267.....and became the first player in NCAA history to rush for 1,000 yards and pass for 2,500 in a season.

One other thing, IMO I do not see the Texans using that pick on Bush. The Texans need deperate help on both the offense and defensive lines. Casserly will try and trade down. There might not be any takers though.
Either way Young is saying tonight he is going to stay in school. Once he sees the $igns he might change his mind.

I can't really say who I think the better player is after tonight's game. Vince Young showed me a lot more than I had really seen because this was such a close game. I didn't see the OSU game, so I can't speak intelligently on that. All I can say is it is too close for me to call right now.

The game tonight is overhyped, and im finally glad it is gonna happen, im sick and tired of ESPN only showing crap on the Rose Bowl.

Maybe it was, but it lived up to its billing and more. That's as good a game as you'll ever see.