Brunell sucks

I can't even believe I am reading a "brunell sucks" thread after he just led the Redskins to a 10-6 record and a playoff birth. Rediculous...

I think Brunell has 1 mode and that's look for Moss, if that option is closed he immediatly checks off to Cooley, the problem that arouse today is Philli took Cooley away from him, essentially removing his saftey net, Brunell doesn't seem to be able to look for the #2 reciever. He did make a big play to Thrash and had all he could do to reach him, his deep ball stay's in the air a long time, you have to be pretty wide open for the defender not to be able to close in on it as Thrash was.

He defiently was off target today, but I think Philli's coverage had as much to do with that as his injury. The problem that we have is Tampa saw exactly what the Eagles did and will attempt to do the same thing to us next week.

This is Brunell's season to win or lose, I still stand firm on my stance that we would be a better team with Ramsey at the controls, but I would be worried at this point in the season to have Ramsey playing in a big playoff game without the luxory of playing in an offense for a legitamate amount of playing time. But unless Brunell can't walk Gibbs isn't going to replace him no matter how bad he plays, it was pretty obvious that Brunell wasen't ready to play, if that wasen't the case we will have a problem come saturday, hopefully he heals up by then, we can't rely on TO's by the opposition to bail us out.

Yea well said, Brunell did not play well, but that is no need to hate. He still got us this far, but Tampa will be a problem, we need to change up the game plan and get Brown and Trash involved as recievers.

Sentimentally I still like Ramsey, but everyone has to realize how much and how well Brunnel has played this season. Believe me I grudgely give him this credit.

I think Brunell has 1 mode and that's look for Moss, if that option is closed he immediatly checks off to Cooley, the problem that arouse today is Philli took Cooley away from him, essentially removing his saftey net, Brunell doesn't seem to be able to look for the #2 reciever. He did make a big play to Thrash and had all he could do to reach him, his deep ball stay's in the air a long time, you have to be pretty wide open for the defender not to be able to close in on it as Thrash was.

He defiently was off target today, but I think Philli's coverage had as much to do with that as his injury. The problem that we have is Tampa saw exactly what the Eagles did and will attempt to do the same thing to us next week.

This is Brunell's season to win or lose, I still stand firm on my stance that we would be a better team with Ramsey at the controls, but I would be worried at this point in the season to have Ramsey playing in a big playoff game without the luxory of playing in an offense for a legitamate amount of playing time. But unless Brunell can't walk Gibbs isn't going to replace him no matter how bad he plays, it was pretty obvious that Brunell wasen't ready to play, if that wasen't the case we will have a problem come saturday, hopefully he heals up by then, we can't rely on TO's by the opposition to bail us out.


I think that captures how i feel.. We will sink or float with him i am not gonna put negative karma or whatever on him... i just want a win...but i like you think we would be a better team with ramsey but i wish brunell luck..

I was a Brunell hater from day 1. I thought Ramsey should have been the guy. But, in no way do I think we would be 10-6 in the playoffs if Brunell wasn't pulling the string. Ramsey makes too many mistakes trying to force things downfield. Brunell manages the game, doesn't make mistakes, and takes what teams gives us. Our defense is too good to put in that position. With a defense that is as good as ours, you minimize your mistakes, and let the D give you field position. Ramsey would not have been able to complete a season with 22 TDs and ONLY 9 picks. Time and time again Brunell stepped up and made playes, whether is was throwing the ball away, moving around in the pocket buying some time, or running for the a big first down, which he has done a number of times this season. There is no other guy that deserves to be or frankly should be behind center than Brunell. He is our guy, and if hes healthy will be next year too. Ramsey will be dealt to the highest bidder, Campbell will be the #2 next year, then might start year #3. Dont hate on Brunell, without him we are not even in the playoffs.

Does anyone else here believe that Brunnel was the better choice for the Philly game (better than a healthy Ramsey)?

Look, I like Ramsey, but we were playing the Eagles. The game plan for the offense was simple. Protect the football and score enough points to force the Eagles offense to make mistakes. Brunnel, while not healthy, can protect the football better than Ramsey. If we were going into a shoot out against a better and more polished offense, Ramsey may have been the better choice for the game. Playing Ramsey is like playing the stock market, high risk, high reward. Brunnel is more like a stock broker, he finds the hot stock (Moss, Cooley, Portis, Sellars...) and lets them do it.

Confession is good for the soul #56 (if not for the ego).
I read a post not long ago suggesting Ramsey has a relatively small contract in 2006. I don't know if his ego could stand it, but it would be nice to keep him, if he comfortable in that role. Brunell ain't getting any younger, and Campbell isn't ready. With the quarterback shortage in the NFL, if traded he may go higher than the 3rd or 4th round pick, as suggested. if not, keep him

Does anyone else here believe that Brunnel was the better choice for the Philly game (better than a healthy Ramsey)?

Look, I like Ramsey, but we were playing the Eagles. The game plan for the offense was simple. Protect the football and score enough points to force the Eagles offense to make mistakes. Brunnel, while not healthy, can protect the football better than Ramsey. If we were going into a shoot out against a better and more polished offense, Ramsey may have been the better choice for the game. Playing Ramsey is like playing the stock market, high risk, high reward. Brunnel is more like a stock broker, he finds the hot stock (Moss, Cooley, Portis, Sellars...) and lets them do it.


Our offense has become far more potent since the start of last season, or even the start of this season, gibbs has really tried to open things up the last month, it is also when we really started to get on a roll, Ramsey has not really been judged with the benefit of this more aggresive play calling, Brunell has greatly benefitted from it, as would Ramsey, everyone want's to judge Ramsey under unfair circumstances, I am tired of hearing about how reckless he is with the football, Brunell up until the last month was just as reckless, Gibbs is now allowing the offense to function properly, we now have more of a balance, defenses no longer know we are going to try and run the clock out by the second quarter, and can't start flooding the box knowing the run, or short pass is coming.

Many just see what Brunell is doing and assume that is all any QB can do, but I say this, Ramsey's arm strength could very possibly stretch the defense much more than Brunell, allowing more room for the underneath passing game, as well as bigger gains for Portis. Ramsey can through a dart 50 yards downfield, a defense has to account for that, who here wouldn't want to see Moss at full speed down the sideline, and Ramsey trying to over throw him? I know defenses wouldn't like to see that, the first time Ramsey hit's Moss for a TD 60 yards in the air as Moss out runs the depth of the defense, and Ramsey throws the ball further than most QB's in the league it will scare the daylights out of any secondary and force them to take much deeper drops, we will not see that happen with Brunell. Is Brunell getting the job done in recent week's? Yes, but can we be even better? My opinion is YES! But that is for next year, Brunell if healthy has to be the man through the playoffs.

No... Sunra simply said that to assert, after Brunnell's solid QB'ing and great TD to INT ratio got us to the playoffs, to advocate dumping Brunnell after one bad half was "pretty pathetic commentary from someone who claims to love the Redskins".

Nobody was told to shut up. You are absolutely correct - generally speaking, everyone is entitled to voice their opinion on this site. Some opinions - like calling for dumping Brunnell - are simply more moronic than others. Sunra was merely highlighting the idiocy of such a call after Brunnell's accomplishments this season - especially from a Redskins fan as such a person is one whom others would expect to have Brunnell's accomplishments during the course of the season.

Wow. :towel: Your'e on the case. Want to represent me in court? LOL

I was a Brunell hater from day 1. I thought Ramsey should have been the guy. But, in no way do I think we would be 10-6 in the playoffs if Brunell wasn't pulling the string. Ramsey makes too many mistakes trying to force things downfield. Brunell manages the game, doesn't make mistakes, and takes what teams gives us. Our defense is too good to put in that position. With a defense that is as good as ours, you minimize your mistakes, and let the D give you field position. Ramsey would not have been able to complete a season with 22 TDs and ONLY 9 picks. Time and time again Brunell stepped up and made playes, whether is was throwing the ball away, moving around in the pocket buying some time, or running for the a big first down, which he has done a number of times this season. There is no other guy that deserves to be or frankly should be behind center than Brunell. He is our guy, and if hes healthy will be next year too. Ramsey will be dealt to the highest bidder, Campbell will be the #2 next year, then might start year #3. Dont hate on Brunell, without him we are not even in the playoffs.
I to was in the frame of mind that you had!!! But when I saw that Ramsey was so bad and the news that Burnell was hurt last season along with his better showin in the perseason I was with you! I believe that we would have not made the play-offs with out Burnell! He played well on one leg this week and i hope he is well this week against TB for us to win!!!